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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:26 am
by Scalebane
Why do you think an SK is indicated? I would tend to agree, but I would like to know your reasons.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:26 am
by Scalebane
In that post, I meant disagree, sorry everybody!
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:10 pm
by Gammie
Ah alright Willows_weep, I was under the impression you thought he was suspicious only because he "made a typo."
Sounds fair enough, now that you point it out where he's been saying stuff like that, it does look blatently obvious that he's TRYING to act townie...a wee bit too hard?
Unvote: Willows_weep
FoS: tehgood
Only FoS on the basis of what Ygg said, Don't want to lynch him before he claims...Based on whether or not it's a beleiveable claim, I'll vote accordingly.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:12 pm
by Gammie
*smacks herself*
Doh, I'm thinking to bold at the end of my post and I never do.
Unvote: Willows_Weep
FoS: tehgood
(although the FoS isnt really needed
)
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:16 pm
by Gammie
I'm having a 3 posts every time I login thing I think
I think Ygg is onto something with the SK thought, a doc (or the doc) might have gotten lucky on night one. Scalebane, why would you disagree with SK's being in the game? Is it even possible to NOT be in the game? (Boy, THAT sounds newbish
)
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:48 pm
by tehgood
Ok, Willows, do you want me to say, "My Scum Fellows" or "My Mafia Buddies"?
Ok, I am
the Question
- don't ask me where he/she/it came from - googleing it didn't help... "the question" came up with... lesse.. 245,000+ results. Also - I am a normal townie.
Despite a name like the Question.. I'm not an investigator
.
Anyway, I might as well just
OMGUS Willows
, because voting for me because I made a joke first post, then claimed pro-town in another is absurd.
tehgood
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 1:31 pm
by willows_weep
Ok I am looking for things on The Question.
I found a tid bit on this site
http://jl.toonzone.net/001/001.htm
“I sat down and did a bunch of different characters, even some that had never even been in the JLA, like the Question. We tried to put in as weird a mix as we could so it wasn’t just Superman, Aquaman, Hawkman...Batman wasn’t going to be part of it. He already had his own show. "
"The original lineup consisted of Superman, the Question, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Vixen, Nightshade, Black Lightning, Green Lantern (John Stewart), and Dr. Fate (boldfaced characters above have appeared on one or more of the current shows). "
“[In the end, then-DC President and Editor-In-Chief] Jenette Kahn put a stop to it. She thought it was not a good idea, since we were just reintroducing Superman to the audience, and she thought teaming him up with the JLA would diminishing to him. We all kind of agreed with that, so we dropped the JLA idea (courtesy of Wizard Magazine).”
"Finally, it's a good thing that the creative team waited until they were ready to tackle Justice League, especially considering the previous versions considered. Let's face it: it would be hard for us to tune into the adventures of The Question, Vixen, and Black Lightning rather than Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, not to mention the fact that a team without the commercial appeal of Batman wouldn't last."
This is all I have found on The question, the site seems to be a discussion/informative page of idea/show/art developers/creative team members of JL who actually had a hand in creating the show, with bits from magazines as a source as well as the original comic etc.
BRB I will look for more..
Owww...my eyes...Well I haven't found anymore but that whole toonzone site is a nice read...long long long one at that. There are links there to learn more than I wanted to know...
BTW this post is just to give something on The Question. I don't know if it's helpful, or not...I was just looking it up. If it's helpful...can you tell me how? Either way take what you will from it.
Oh and another btw where it says "bold face characters above have appeared on one or more of the current shows" The Question was not listed in boldface.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:03 pm
by Scalebane
Ok, I simply am aware that whoever the mafia godfather might be might have an extra night kill. That is all. A game with 4 mafia & GF has an extra night kill wouldn't be unbalanced with a decent supply of pro-town roles around. Unless, I am mistaken.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:10 pm
by Yggdrasil
Scalebane: I doubt that the extra kill would be from the Godfather as a mafia (Isaac/Darkseid) was among the deaths last night.
I believe that the extra kill was from an SK because the extra killing party is certainly not connected to the mafia, and I don't think a vig would have enough information to make a smart kill last night.
I highly doubt that "The Question" would be in this game, as Batman and Wonder Woman are in it. However, if someone can defend tehgood's claim by claiming Black Canary, Vixen, Nightshade, Black Lightning, Dr. Fate or some other minor/hypothetical characters, then I'm more inclined to believe it.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:29 pm
by willows_weep
Hi players/mods, I am just notifying you that I will be on a looooong bus ride: 10hours...starting 12:30am. I will maybe be able to come to the thread by 12pm Monday afternoon. I will try to get here as soon as I possibly can.
As for now it's uhm 9:24pm. I will leave for the bus station at 10pm. So my last check-in here will be...9:50? I have to set up my luggage...
Well see you all laters.
`Ciao
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:45 pm
by Dementia Blader
I'm gonna
Fos
tehgood, but I doubt he could make something like that?
And why do I seem scummy?
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:48 pm
by Morpheus
hmmmm since aquaman was in it I'm guessing the other 7 JL members would be in it also. That means Aquaman, Batman, WW, GL, Superman, MM, The Flash, and Hawkgirl will probably be in it. That mean there are probably 3 mafia 1 sk or something like that. So I doubt The question would be in it. So I will keep my vote on tehgood.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:49 pm
by Morpheus
BTW Db you don't seem scumy at all. I'm not sure where yggs got that idea.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:53 pm
by Yggdrasil
I listed DB as suspicious just because he had a chance to vote for CoolBot last round, but chose not to. However, as he has not done anything else suspicious, I'm not inclined to pursue that suspicion very far.
Right now, I'm almost positive that tehgood is mafia, but I'd like to hear other people's thoughts before I vote.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:30 am
by Scalebane
I would have to agree with everyone here. I sincerely doubt the question even has a remote possibility of being in here.
Vote: tehgood
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:17 am
by gin
Yggdrasil wrote:Even more suspicious are those who posted elsewhere on mafiascum.net between CoolBot's roleclaim (Nov 25, 1:52pm) and the end of day 1 (Nov 26, 3:49). These are: tehgood (1 post on Nov 25, 10:52pm) and gin (2 posts, Nov 26, 1:34 am and Nov 26, 10:10 am).
So, I'll
vote: gin
for having two chances to comment on CoolBot's roleclaim and choosing to remain silent.
Why am I more suspicious? I've seen people say this on another forum and it just doesn't strike me as conclusive evidence. But still, to answer your question - I didn't post here because I was undecided on CoolBot's role-claim and didn't feel posting this fact would help. By the time I was considering a post the lynch had already fell so I wasn't able to respond. But anyway, I can appreciate why people might find this behaviour suspicious.
Anyway, I apologise for my silence over the last couple of days, but having read through people's posts I have to agree tehgood is the scummiest looking person here so far - using the question is a convinient way to stop people from easily googling etc. Plus people who say they're 'just a townie' always make me suspicious - especially in a game where people are superheroes...
So,
Vote tehgood
As for the deaths - after this day falls it'll be interesting to see if we have 2 deaths again... that should help to tell whether it's a SK or vigilante.
G & T
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:36 am
by bloojay
Final Vote Count:
tehgood-4 (willows_weep, Morpheus, Scalebane, gin)
gin-1 (Yggdrasil)
As tehgood is slowly dragged to the airlock, he tries feebly to save his life.
"I am none other than...The Question!"
"sure, you do exist but why would you be here? you're not even a member!"
"No! i Swearrrrrrrr......"
And "swear" is his final word. As he tumbles away, you notice a green stone appear to rise out of his pocket...
tehgood, Lex Luthor, lynched
Send in choices to the usual peeps.
Deadline is Thursday @ 6 PM CST
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:30 am
by blackhawk
That night was really, really quick.
The Daily Planet
Top News Today!
By Clark Kent
Ok here is what I have found in the past 3 nights. Gin's room is empty except for a potted plant. DB's room has a mace and bird related objects. (hawkgirl I'm guessing) Willows_weep's room is filled with playboy pinups. So I'm not sure what this means good luck finding out.
No Deaths Tonight
By Lois Lane
Wonder Woman must have done a spectactular job protecting. That is all I can say.
7 alive, 3 to lynch.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:54 am
by willows_weep
Lol playboy pinups...
Hm does it mean anything that the news article only mentions 4 of the players?
What of the rest...
And yes that was a quick night...I was worried this would be locked till Thursday...
Well got to go to classes now. See you all laters.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:55 am
by willows_weep
Lol playboy pinups...
Hm does it mean anything that the news article only mentions 4 of the players?
What of the rest...
And yes that was a quick night...I was worried this would be locked till Thursday...
Well got to go to classes now. See you all laters.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:58 am
by gin
willows_weep wrote:Lol playboy pinups...
Playboy pinups in a Justice League bedroom
willows_weep, you have some explaining to do methinks... The only character I can think of that that would fit in with is The Flash but still I'm not sure this would be the bedroom of a law abiding justice leaguer :/
willows_weep wrote:Hm does it mean anything that the news article only mentions 4 of the players?
Well, I guess we have an investigative role - superman. Who can also choose to anonymously print a news story with what he finds under Clark Kent. It mentions 3 of the players, exhonourating DB and making ambiguous comments about me and willows_weep. I don't really want to role-claim unless pushed but I hope it's clear from it that I'm pro-league (.
Although, quite why the mod (I assume) gave away that wonder woman is the protective role I don't know...
Anyway:- Big
FoS: willows_weep
, though not enough for me to vote for him as of yet *goes to reread the last couple of days*
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:53 am
by willows_weep
Are you FOS'ing me for pinups?
Btw where would Ivy fit in if it all in this game? Or is that just a batman thing...I am asking because reading about the plant triggered my memory of the cartoon.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:10 am
by Yggdrasil
Just to let you guys know, now that it has been revealed that I am the doctor, I protecteed willows_weep last night. Since the mafia would not go after one of their own, willows_weep is almost unquestionably innocent. (Unless the mafia tried to target Gammie, who is invincible, and the SK targeted willows_weep).
gin, on the other hand, looks very suspicious. Not that gin's room is empty except for a potted plant. Who would have a plant? Poison Ivy perhaps.
But, that's not my main suspicion. At the beginning of the round, gin placed the 5th vote on me.
gin wrote:I'll go with
Vote Yggdrasil
, simply because a mass role claim is a scum type thing to suggest.
Plus this needs to get moving
However, when a bandwaggon started against CoolBot, he refused to place the 4th vote and said:
gin wrote:CoolBot wrote:gin wrote:I'm not going to vote for Coolbot yet, though if we get close to the deadline I will.
Any particular reason you don't want to give me a chance to defend myself? I can't figure out any other reason you'd want to do this.
That's kind of the reason I'm not voting for you now.
I'm not going to vote for you without good reason, and in my opinion the possibility of no lynch due to a deadline is a good reason. But I won't vote for you until that forces me to.
So before when a bandwaggon was against me, he argued that the game needed to get going. However, later
when there was an upcomming deadline
he hessitated to put the 4th of 6 vote on CoolBot. This seems very inconsistent when he had no problem putting the 5th of 6 vote on me
when there was no upcomming deadline
. It seems to me that gin was trying to accelerate the bandwaggon against the innocent in the first case, while he was trying to stop/slow the bandwaggon against a mafia in the second case.
So, again, I will
vote: gin
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:26 am
by Morpheus
Wow Ygg, can't argue with that logic. I agree with almost everything you say. (I say almost just in case i missed something) Now that you point that out it does seem like Gin is pretty suspicous. Now that I think about since 3 mafia are dead I'm guessing there's only an SK left so I don't really think willows_weep is very suspicous. Since what Clark kent wrote about the pinups maybe he is the flash. Well, After all that I guess I should say
vote: gin
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:37 am
by Gammie
gin wrote:willows_weep wrote:Lol playboy pinups...
Playboy pinups in a Justice League bedroom
willows_weep, you have some explaining to do methinks... The only character I can think of that that would fit in with is The Flash but still I'm not sure this would be the bedroom of a law abiding justice leaguer :/
willows_weep wrote:Hm does it mean anything that the news article only mentions 4 of the players?
Well, I guess we have an investigative role - superman. Who can also choose to anonymously print a news story with what he finds under Clark Kent. It mentions 3 of the players, exhonourating DB and making ambiguous comments about me and willows_weep. I don't really want to role-claim unless pushed but I hope it's clear from it that I'm pro-league (.
Although, quite why the mod (I assume) gave away that wonder woman is the protective role I don't know...
Anyway:- Big
FoS: willows_weep
, though not enough for me to vote for him as of yet *goes to reread the last couple of days*
Vote: Gin
My reasoning behind this vote - Read the "Death scene" (even though there were no deaths). Nothing in your room except for a potted plant. The only bad guy associated with the JL that also is associated with plants, is Poison Ivy from Batman. Poison Ivy is a bad guy (well, gal.)
Other than that, I agree completely with Ygg. Although, if they did target me, they were really stupid about it...I basically told them I couldn't get killed at night. Still possible though, if they screwed up and missing part of my claim.
The Flash was always kind of a"pimp" as I remember. The Playboy magazines would make sense being his. DB is automatically cleared also, because he's obviously hawkgirl, right? Unless he just likes maces and bird related stuff
Positive Innocents/Claims =
Ygg, WW
Gammie, Green Lantern
DB, Hawkgirl
Am I missing any of the claims?
Then the baddies gone are
Joker
Lex Luthor
Soon to be Poison Ivy?
The people left to claim would be Morph, Willows_weep (if he's not admitting to being the flash?), Gin, Scalebane
Dead = Batman, Aqua Man
If Gin turns up mafia, that means one of the three (morph, Willows, Scalebane) are mafia...if I'm not missing anyone