Mafiascum.net

EBWOP: "It's not scummy that he did it, you're scummy for voting him!"
~Krabs

In post 122, Svenskt Stål wrote:I am implying that people think they see "town power play" or "scum slips" way to much, and not reflecting over the fact that they are wrong alot.
I am implying that your reasoning have been subpar from what I have seen.

I dont know what breadcrumbing is.

Breadcrumbing means revealing some senstive information... lilke town PR's revealing their identification in other way. And Monkey was pushing for it. Check more here :http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Breadcrumb

The thing with monkey, He has tendency to do something like this.. I have seen him doing this before. But that's not what worried me more, he rather attacks me for my playstyle then the point i made on him. That is not cool.

I think monkeys anger or irritation outbursts seems genuine.

In post 126, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 122, Svenskt Stål wrote:I am implying that people think they see "town power play" or "scum slips" way to much, and not reflecting over the fact that they are wrong alot.
I am implying that your reasoning have been subpar from what I have seen.

I dont know what breadcrumbing is.

Breadcrumbing means revealing some senstive information... lilke town PR's revealing their identification in other way. And Monkey was pushing for it. Check more here :http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Breadcrumb

The thing with monkey, He has tendency to do something like this.. I have seen him doing this before. But that's not what worried me more, he rather attacks me for my playstyle then the point i made on him. That is not cool.

Could you direct me to the post where he "pushes for it" in this thread. Also link me the meta you have as proof. His reaction seems reasonable, I would react worse.

I think you are town.

Looking at ArcAngel's posts, I think she's Town, mainly for the reason that I don't get any scummy vibes from her. If anyone else does, feel free to present them to me.

I have to say though, that "Nero let something from his QT slip" reasoning is really interesting, although I'm on the fence, it could be scum contrived, it could be scumhunting. I'm probably going to analyse their play and look on at their further play in this game before I come to a conclusion.

~Krabs

In post 129, Krab Bucket wrote:

Looking at ArcAngel's posts, I think she's Town, mainly for the reason that I don't get any scummy vibes from her

. If anyone else does, feel free to present them to me.

I have to say though, that "Nero let something from his QT slip" reasoning is really interesting, although I'm on the fence, it could be scum contrived, it could be scumhunting. I'm probably going to analyse their play and look on at their further play in this game before I come to a conclusion.

~Krabs

Thats like three levels of horrible. So everyone that doesnt give you scum vibes are town? You have no null field?

I dont know what to make of it, do you usually structure your reasoning like this?

Usually I give people that have done both scummy and town things the null read, while I tend to put people that haven't done anything scummy as Leaning Town, which is basically my way of a weak Town read.
~Krabs

In post 128, Svenskt Stål wrote:

In post 126, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 122, Svenskt Stål wrote:I am implying that people think they see "town power play" or "scum slips" way to much, and not reflecting over the fact that they are wrong alot.
I am implying that your reasoning have been subpar from what I have seen.

I dont know what breadcrumbing is.

Breadcrumbing means revealing some senstive information... lilke town PR's revealing their identification in other way. And Monkey was pushing for it. Check more here :http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Breadcrumb

The thing with monkey, He has tendency to do something like this.. I have seen him doing this before. But that's not what worried me more, he rather attacks me for my playstyle then the point i made on him. That is not cool.

Could you direct me to the post where he "pushes for it" in this thread. Also link me the meta you have as proof. His reaction seems reasonable, I would react worse.

I think you are town.

Check my post #64

Monkey Scum games and his reactions & scum slips...

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=250

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=25546

Okay, I skimmed his posts but you have to be more precise about what scum slips you are reffering to.

In post 133, Svenskt Stål wrote:Okay, I skimmed his posts but you have to be more precise about what scum slips you are reffering to.

Skimmed, Sven.. don't ask me to spoon feed you.. you gotta put some effort if you want to understand.
i am not going to bid your requests, check out his claims? they're massive scum slips...

In post 134, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 133, Svenskt Stål wrote:Okay, I skimmed his posts but you have to be more precise about what scum slips you are reffering to.

Skimmed, Sven.. don't ask me to spoon feed you.. you gotta put some effort if you want to understand.
i am not going to bid your requests, check out his claims? they're massive scum slips...

If you want me in the same boat as you, then I am afraid you have to make me understand.

You are talking about scum slips, I understand that as him revealing himself with hidden info. What does claims have to do with this game, has he claimed anything yet?

Or are you talking about that his game as a whole is similiar to his scum game? I thought you had specific moments that you thought looked similiar, and if so I need you to point them out.

Chainsaw Charlie v Cactus Jack (Raw is War February 2nd 1998)

[/quote]

Also, just to let it out there. If someone has guilty on someone, dont out it at the start of a day, wait awhile. If you out early we miss the natural flow of that player for that day.

In post 137, Svenskt Stål wrote:Also, just to let it out there. If someone has guilty on someone, dont out it at the start of a day, wait awhile. If you out early we miss the natural flow of that player for that day.

Nobody's going to remember it if you post it now, post it again Day 2 so people know.
~Krabs

you mean I can't out my guilty 'sult on Nexus?

Sven, to give you a better answer on breadcrumbing, it is basically dropping subtle hints and clues of your role so when you claim you can point to these posts to validate your claim. Lots of wifom involved imo though.

Also, I honestly believe there was no malicious intent behind Monkey's question. I don't believe I have ever played a game with him and he isn't sure if I would be the type of player who would flat out use that as a claim. I don't think it is a smart question to ask(as we can see, and for various other reasons). But I would be shocked if it is a scum motivated question.

Also someone asked(maybe arc?), the phrase 'i like the cut of his jib' basically just means I like this person and/or like how he goes about things.

Sven,

I don't understand what you mean by make you understand. If I had no intention for make you understand, I wouldn't have gone back to pull those links for you. I would appreciate if you also make some effort doing few things from your side (like at least reading game from the links i have provided). And also re-read my conversations with Monkey. Becuz, I believe if you read by yourself would make sense to you than me explain everything to you..

But still.. In breif..

Monkey's breadcruming early on Day1 appears like he is trying to fish for town PR's. He usually has a tendency to scum slip (just like the early claims on those games from the links i have provided) When I started asking him about this reason for role-fishing, He attacked me with my meta instead of defending with actual content, That come out really odd as expected. And anywayz, I know that a Town monkey could also possibliy capable of doing something this stupid, all I was waiting for him to come with a proper defence which he clearly didn't do as of this moment.

Arc is town since she's not playing akwardly

Were out of RVS and all these wagons are lame, especially the skull one which is just dumb so yeah, feels like scum is riding on that wagon atm.

VOTE: Ravenpaw

Nero looks like he's town also

hahahaha ArcAngel is styling on Sven this page

Also Ravenpaw is legitimately scummy

This is all a bunch of bullcrap.

lol didn't close tags correctly FML

In post 142, RATEDR wrote:Arc is town since she's not playing akwardly

Were out of RVS and all these wagons are lame, especially the skull one which is just dumb so yeah, feels like scum is riding on that wagon atm.

VOTE: Ravenpaw

Can you explain what you mean by this? I've seen town arc and it was pretty fucking awkward (Mini 1426).

With that said, I agree that she is town this game, but it's because her logic is sound and well-reasoned and I have no problem with picking up on an early scumslip and running with it. RVS has to get left behind somehow, and several people have already come out on both sides of the issue, which is where information starts coming from. You can question the degree to which Monkey was fishing and how scummy it is, but the fact of the matter is he was, by definition, fishing for Duzn's role. The retroactive "It looked like he was posting under role-related restrictions!" justification is completely bogus, and his immediate reaction to arc's comment was to attempt to discredit her by negatively referencing her meta (which itself is not indicative of anything because Arc's meta is all over the place).

I also agree with the idea that scum are on the Duggery wagon...it's an easy place to park a vote during the RVS transition. And I was with you on the ravenpaw vote for their Duzn vote ("I just want to see what happens") and the Duggery wagon jump, but #102 reads town to me.

So...

Skullduggery (5)- FuDuzn, Fuzzyman, ferretlover, Jebus, Nero Cain

Nero is town. Jebus' only post of the game is his vote on Skull, so he's a possibility (passing RVS vote off on a legitimate wagon). Ferret's #43 was good and he at least introduced the possibility of scum wifoming a self-vote, so he's out. Fuzzyman says that self-voting is anti-town and a little scummy, but then says he's not going to unvote until Skull gives a good reason for self-voting. Circular logic throws him into the lynch pile. Duzn doesn't have a game related post (going out of his way to answer grammar/axiom questions at the expense of actual content), and early fluff with a lot of legitimate events going on simultaneously is scummy.

tl;dr: Jebus, Duzn, or Fuzzyman? I'm ok with any of the three right now, but Jebus parked his RVS vote on a legit wagon AND isn't providing any content at all, so I'm going to go here:

Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe