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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:30 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
If it comes down to Lord Mhork and Saint, I am voting Saint.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:38 pm
by Jake from State Farm
sorry, daughter's soccer party at the lake turned into an evening affair. not going to read tonight. Definitely get to this tomorrow.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:09 pm
by Jake from State Farm
Fuck I just started reading and already need clarification from the mod.

mod, I just read rule number 0,How much leeway do you give in this rule? Yes this is a serious question

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:15 pm
by Jake from State Farm
wow this read through was actually quite easy

Saint/Mhork both town

scum is Deas/TMYONHKJNKSANKJB/Bro

Vote: deas


GG everyone

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:16 pm
by DeasVail
FoS: TMT
for

Maybe I'll vote/elaborate/change my mind when I look at things more properly tonight.

PEdit: Ew you can be scum too.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:16 pm
by Jake from State Farm
nice omgus

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:17 pm
by Jake from State Farm
you realize you have done the equivilent of jack shit all game right? not a single pro-town post let alone any real scum hunting

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:19 pm
by DeasVail
Am I more scummy because of it? :]

Ok, and I'm scum because...?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:22 pm
by Jake from State Farm
cause my gut says you are scum, and I have learned to trust my gut

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:24 pm
by Ghostlin
In post 124, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Alright, I think you've sufficiently summarized and explained to me why Saint is scum, so I'll retract my townread on Saint.
*Hands you a piece of fence to sit on.* No one reverses their opinion this quickly. Do you have any conviction (in another game, I'd say 'balls') at all?

Unvote.

Vote: TMT


For 'durr, you're right, Mhork, Saint seems scummy after all.'

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:27 pm
by DeasVail
Ok, so you accuse me of not doing anything, implying that it's related to you thinking I'm scum, even though on direct comparison between me and you it's obvious that my posts have shown more scumhunting. (I'm not saying you're not, but I'm judging you on the same grounds that you're judging me)

Also, how do you plan on getting me lynched?

PEdit: Yeah, I don't get it either.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:28 pm
by Ghostlin
OMGUS: Not actually a scum tell.
In post 132, DeasVail wrote:Am I more scummy because of it? :]

Ok, and I'm scum because...?
This sounds a bit cheeky, but I'd not buy DV for scum. At least he didn't reverse his position in a complete 180 in his post.
In post 133, Jake from State Farm wrote:cause my gut says you are scum, and I have learned to trust my gut
Look. I know a number of players read credence in their gut, but you're going to actually have to tell me where in the game DV is being scummy in order to
earn
my vote on the wagon you're trying to start.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:29 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 136, Ghostlin wrote:OMGUS: Not actually a scum tell.
did I say it was? I just called him out on it cause OMGUS are lame

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:37 pm
by fuzzybutternut
In post 134, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 124, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Alright, I think you've sufficiently summarized and explained to me why Saint is scum, so I'll retract my townread on Saint.
*Hands you a piece of fence to sit on.* No one reverses their opinion this quickly. Do you have any conviction (in another game, I'd say 'balls') at all?

Unvote.

Vote: TMT


For 'durr, you're right, Mhork, Saint seems scummy after all.'
In post 136, Ghostlin wrote:
I like this post. But I also don't like it. I like it in the sense that you are right and that was pretty scummy; however, I don't like it because you jumped on it without second thought.

OMGUS: Not actually a scum tell.
In post 132, DeasVail wrote:Am I more scummy because of it? :]

Ok, and I'm scum because...?
This sounds a bit cheeky, but I'd not buy DV for scum. At least he didn't reverse his position in a complete 180 in his post.
In post 133, Jake from State Farm wrote:cause my gut says you are scum, and I have learned to trust my gut
Look. I know a number of players read credence in their gut, but you're going to actually have to tell me where in the game DV is being scummy in order to
earn
my vote on the wagon you're trying to start.
Again: Like and dislike.
You seem like over reactive scum here. "That's not a scum tell." Yeah, no one called you scum for it.
Last bit's the only part I like..so..yeah.

VOTE: Ghostlin

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:41 pm
by Jake from State Farm
post 20 cringed my gut, I saw absolutely nothing wrong with Saint's posts, they all read town to me

post 29 - fuzzy hadn't done shit to earn a town read from anyone imo

post 43 - asks saint why SD was a better vote than Angel, but Saint didn't have a scum read on Angel, so this question made no sense to ask. Angel was voting Deas, so it looked like he was trying to divert negative attention back to AA9

post 51 - self explanatory and tbh If I was a mod I would have modkilled him for what he did.

post 53 - why did he not say what he liked and didn't like about posts 48/49 instead of just half assed it?

post 76 - the vote is basically him coming to the defense of Saint, but the case from mhor reads town. I can't remember what the term is where you attack the person attacking someone else, but yeah that is what I read post 76 as.

post 84 - he questions that mhork could find so many things scummy, but iirc saint wasn't an obv town read for Deas, he even said that Saint was weird. to me weird means not sure if town.

103 is just an annoyance and unnecessary post

107 stands out because now it seems like he wants to question a person who has a town read on saint. HMM. attack a person attacking Saint, and at the same time question a person town reading saint all the while not commenting on if he thinks saint is town or scum. This is what I call fluffing. He is egging people on without trying to find scum.

I could probably go on, but want to watch the end of the basketball game.

hope this sufficed for now

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:41 pm
by Jake from State Farm
post 20 cringed my gut, I saw absolutely nothing wrong with Saint's posts, they all read town to me

post 29 - fuzzy hadn't done shit to earn a town read from anyone imo

post 43 - asks saint why SD was a better vote than Angel, but Saint didn't have a scum read on Angel, so this question made no sense to ask. Angel was voting Deas, so it looked like he was trying to divert negative attention back to AA9

post 51 - self explanatory and tbh If I was a mod I would have modkilled him for what he did.

post 53 - why did he not say what he liked and didn't like about posts 48/49 instead of just half assed it?

post 76 - the vote is basically him coming to the defense of Saint, but the case from mhor reads town. I can't remember what the term is where you attack the person attacking someone else, but yeah that is what I read post 76 as.

post 84 - he questions that mhork could find so many things scummy, but iirc saint wasn't an obv town read for Deas, he even said that Saint was weird. to me weird means not sure if town.

103 is just an annoyance and unnecessary post

107 stands out because now it seems like he wants to question a person who has a town read on saint. HMM. attack a person attacking Saint, and at the same time question a person town reading saint all the while not commenting on if he thinks saint is town or scum. This is what I call fluffing. He is egging people on without trying to find scum.

I could probably go on, but want to watch the end of the basketball game.

hope this sufficed for now

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:03 pm
by DeasVail
So it was gut and now it's not gut? :?

What is modkill-worthy about 51?

Essentially, there are reasons behind what I do, so please don't misinterpret them as scummy because that's just going to be a huge waste of effort for all involved. E.g. Not revealing my townread (which I'm still not completely sure about) on Saint was a choice made so that the people I questioned would hopefully not know what kind of answers to be looking for.

And saying that attacking someone who happens to be attacking someone else is scummy is silly because everyone attacks everyone in mafia. You're chainsaw defending Mhork! SCUM!!!!

Several of your points are about disagreeing with me too....

Eh, I'm sorry if I'm sounding too self-righteous/bitchy/whatever, but your suspicion of me is annoying and I'd like it to stop.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:11 pm
by Saint
TMT is flip flopping on me worse than John Kerry flip flopped a few elections ago

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:12 pm
by Saint
im completely ignoring mhork at this point
his misrepresentations and hypocrisy with little to no reasoning of any note... no good words thrown out... kid is a complete non-issue to me this game... i'm leaning village idiot on him
unvote;
vote: tmt
for flip flopping

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:13 pm
by DeasVail
So in case it isn't obvious, Jake, Mhork and TMT are who I'm considering for scum right now. I plan to go over things tonight, so this may change.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:15 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 141, DeasVail wrote:So it was gut and now it's not gut? :?

What is modkill-worthy about 51?

Essentially, there are reasons behind what I do, so please don't misinterpret them as scummy because that's just going to be a huge waste of effort for all involved. E.g. Not revealing my townread (which I'm still not completely sure about) on Saint was a choice made so that the people I questioned would hopefully not know what kind of answers to be looking for.

And saying that attacking someone who happens to be attacking someone else is scummy is silly because everyone attacks everyone in mafia. You're chainsaw defending Mhork! SCUM!!!!

Several of your points are about disagreeing with me too....

Eh, I'm sorry if I'm sounding too self-righteous/bitchy/whatever, but your suspicion of me is annoying and I'd like it to stop.
it's gut, I was asked what posts gave me the gut read so I pointed them out.

post 51 is modkill worthy because you intentionally tried to imply a player was admitting they were scum by altering his words. If a player did that in my game I'd probably modkill them, It certainly wasn't funny and it sure as hell had no town motivation imo.

ahh chainsaw defending, that's the word I was looking for.

I'll give you a little hit about me, when I lock onto someone I don't hardly let loose, so i'm pretty much gonna tunnel on you for the remainder of the day until you are lynched. If you don't like it I suggest you buckle up cause it's gonna be one hell of a ride.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:16 pm
by Jake from State Farm
and more omgus from deas

glad I got 1 scum to crack.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:17 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 137, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 136, Ghostlin wrote:OMGUS: Not actually a scum tell.
did I say it was? I just called him out on it cause OMGUS are lame
btw, NOW I am calling it a scumtell.

do it once, that's acceptable. do it twice and it's scum OR at the very least a VI, and Deas is not a VI imo.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:22 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 142, Saint wrote:TMT is flip flopping on me worse than John Kerry flip flopped a few elections ago
news break, flip flopping isn't a scumtell. welcome to the 21st century

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:23 pm
by Lord Mhork
Screw you, Saint. Point out my hypocrisy.

Jake, can you explain why Saint is town before I possibly follow you on DeasVail?