Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's not my job to convince you that you're wrong Tierce, but for the sake of other people I happen to know that Empire has said in the past he thinks he knows how to read me, and has done extensive meta searches on me. I find it very very likely that town!Empire would have used that opportunity to try and catch me in a contradiction of my own basic pro-town principles.

Where as town!Tierce just doesn't know how to read me for jack shit, so it's far less telling from you. It's also why I'm not going to bother spending the time convincing you I'm town, when I could be killing scums.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Jabberwock, I'm not trying to defame you or anything. Chill. It seems you're overreacting way too much. And I notice you did it again! "X is crap for no reason" is a nice statement indeed.
@Lady,

I'm not understanding the Town motivation in your interaction with Tierce

. And I'm so scared, a vote.
Natirasha has identity issues. Noted.
@Daemon, now now, that would be telling. Anything else to comment on? You seem smart. Tell me what you've seen so far. Also, what's your eye colour?

This is funny. Clearly you are scared, because you've now gone from trying to placate me to trying to fabricate a scum read on me.

This isn't town behavior. My concerns about your intent are gone, I can clearly see the scum intent now.

DEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATH

[Lady Lambdadelta]

MY IMAGE DIDN'T LOAD

NOOOOOOOOO

[TheIrishPope]

@Lady, I have no scum read on you. Who told you that? I am merely saying that your behaviour is kind of iffy, but that's all.
@Jabberwock, someone told me. I like to know my player list before I jump into a game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Jabberwock, I'm not trying to defame you or anything. Chill. It seems you're overreacting way too much. And I notice you did it again! "X is crap for no reason" is a nice statement indeed.
@Lady,

I'm not understanding the Town motivation in your interaction with Tierce

. And I'm so scared, a vote.
Natirasha has identity issues. Noted.
@Daemon, now now, that would be telling. Anything else to comment on? You seem smart. Tell me what you've seen so far. Also, what's your eye colour?

@Lady,

I have no scum read on you.

Who told you that? I am merely saying that your behaviour is kind of iffy, but that's all.
@Jabberwock, someone told me. I like to know my player list before I jump into a game.

What.

[DTMaster]

My abs are ready to play. Rawr. I'm posting in a stream of consciousness style so you can understand my mindset.

@Nati
1. No. I don't. (Self-Note: Can't tell if newb town or fishing. An interesting note is that

This player slot has modded a MINDSCREW GAME GAIDEN

in the past which makes me lean towards the latter. But this person did take a 5 year break since then which can explain the former. Scum points? Possible due to experience of bastard setups and asking such a fishy fishing question)

Fun fact: Vi was in that game.

2. Ok I'm kinda done with the noise from you and Saki at page 4. After Jabberwock just said that spammage is discouraged.

@Purpkin/Irish Pope
1. Early town read in the exchange about Nati's fishing. Why? Warm fuzzies from IP convincing Purpkin to be suspect. Purpkin giving a pass on a town read. This is going to be easy now.

Wait: Nevermind.

@Irish Pope
1. What. Using Tierce as a powerful player is a poor excuse at play. A buddying to a strong player to fly under the radar is anti-town, leaning on scummy behaviour. Anti-town since you're putting yourself as a sheep to a player and gambling on Tierce being town. Scummy since you are being a sheep to avoid suspicion/anger. Screw reputation. Scum hunt.

Openly admitting it though - is brazen. My feels tell me that I'm obsessing over a conflict of theory (at first) since it reads scummy, but the actual action itself contradictary to what I'd expect from scum.

@Purpkin
1. Elaborate on LLD. Bad or good gut read?

@Jabber
I want two things:

1. Read on Cabd
2. Read on LLD.

Why? Cabd posted but ignored your questions. And I'm getting a confused read from your LLD attack where you said she

was backpedaling

AND this was a case against TIP. This is a problem. This is an aggressive tunnel and a mudsling attempt using LLD's posts to make a comment on TIP.

Vote Jabberwock

for the problems

Daykill Natirasha

for the Noise

Personal Note Saki

for later.

[TheIrishPope]

Hold the fucking phone. Did you just daykill Natirasha? And what's Personal Note?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I should have posted this one instead. Way clearer in intention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJueMZJbIc

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hold the fucking phone. Did you just daykill Natirasha? And what's Personal Note?

If(read: when) he flips scum, I want to take a long hard look at Natirasha.

[DTMaster]

@TIP
Yes. And none of you business.

[DTMaster]

EBWOP: Your*

[TheIrishPope]

DTMaster will you marry me

[DTMaster]

After I kill all the scum. We got a job to do.

[Natirasha]

If I just died I'm gonna be hella mad. My post was fishing, yes, I completely agree with the statement. But, like, I was fishing for a piece of information that really doesn't give the scum any info(oh no, they know I have an ability in what is likely to be a game with no vanilla townies!). In my eyes, it can only help the town to have setup knowledge of things that can show where on the complexity scale and bastardness scale we're at, no?

I can extract some amount of logic in the setup simply from knowing the fact that I have an unknown ability, and that no one else has an ability with the same limitations. I know a lot of people don't believe in playing WIFOM in the mod, but I feel--and have always felt--that it is one thing I excel at(and, by looking at my game history, one would find I typically seek out games with a high mechanical complexity or gimmicks).

[Jabberwock]

It's not my job to convince you that you're wrong Tierce, but for the sake of other people I happen to know that Empire has said in the past he thinks he knows how to read me, and has done extensive meta searches on me. I find it very very likely that town!Empire would have used that opportunity to try and catch me in a contradiction of my own basic pro-town principles.

Where as town!Tierce just doesn't know how to read me for jack shit, so it's far less telling from you. It's also why I'm not going to bother spending the time convincing you I'm town, when I could be killing scums.

That does not explain why you questioned us about a Tonwread in the first place, when you

know

we have meta knowledge of you and can dodge that question regardless of alignment. It was a pointless question.

@Jabberwock, someone told me. I like to know my player list before I jump into a game.

Who was it and why did it take you so long to answer a question with a simple, direct answer and instead kept being evasive and asking Empire to describe himself?

DTM: "Problems"? Cabd didn't ignore our questions and our debating of a TIP scumread, he answered them here:

It doesn't match his profile in cold stone to a T,but quite a bit of overlap is there. He hasn't done any of his random stupid shit. Town TIP always does something dumbassish on page one. And he claims his "new and improved" ways only when convenient.

44 is the "tip being serious" post that sent off alarm bells actually. Compare 26 in coldstone.

Jabbers, if the mara head of purpkin, when she gets online, agrees with me, I'm more than confident enough to run him up all the way. Between the two of us, we can read him transparently.

As for our read on Cabd/morph the cat, leaning Town, but nothing strong there and it wouldn't be beyond Cabd to bus TIP since he knows Tierce and Ms Marangal know he can read TIP well.

Our LLD read has nothing to do with our TIP case...? We did not use LLD's posts to comment on TIP. We think they are both scum.

As for this:

Openly admitting it though - is brazen. My feels tell me that I'm obsessing over a conflict of theory (at first) since it reads scummy, but the actual action itself contradictary to what I'd expect from scum.

This is what Empire thought at first, but the rest of TIP's ISO is appallingly scummy regardless. Tierce thinks that post was alignment-null and that it is something that scum can post just fine. Admit to it, it's not going to cost you any points, and makes you look better because omg honesty is Townish, right?

[Natirasha]

PS: I don't know if this matters, but I believe in this situation, it does behoove me to VOTE: DTMaster.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you can't see why it was a good question, you never will. And if you really think I'm scum, you clearly have a long way to go before you can read me.

Or maybe you're just salty from the last FE game and you don't want to risk getting schooled again. I think it was your vote that lost town that game, wasn't it Tierce~~~?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Anyway, if I'm scum, then I must be bussing TIP. So let's go ahead and kill his ass dead, and we can have this discussion tomorrow.

[TheIrishPope]

@Natirasha, post more before you die.
@Jabberwock, if you haven't noticed, RQS is all about reactions. You'll thank me when we reach LyLo. I cannot disclose the name of this person nor would I if I had the capability of doing so HOWEVER I may only say that this person is in this game.
@Lady, wow, I can't believe you misinterpreted me. Feeling a post is scummy is not the same as having a scum read on someone. Do not make assumptions, for they hurt Town. Only applicable if you are Town.
I personally feel the dayvig was fake.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Natirasha, post more before you die.
@Jabberwock, if you haven't noticed, RQS is all about reactions. You'll thank me when we reach LyLo. I cannot disclose the name of this person nor would I if I had the capability of doing so HOWEVER I may only say that this person is in this game.
@Lady, wow, I can't believe you misinterpreted me. Feeling a post is scummy is not the same as having a scum read on someone. Do not make assumptions, for they hurt Town. Only applicable if you are Town.
I personally feel the dayvig was fake.

Ok time for some real talk here.

Calling an interaction scummy is tantamount to expression suspicion on a player. To call an interaction scummy, and then express a town read on a player is a blatant contradiction.

Just some food for thought in the future.

[TheIrishPope]

When did I express a town read on you? Quote it.

[Natirasha]

I am in this position where I am unsure that I am even going to die. If this is some sort of retarded gambit bait, I don't want to give out more information. If I'm dead, my role will become apparent on the upcoming modpost. My thoughts, though? You're annoying and for someone who called me a newbie is the pot calling the kettle black(PS I THINK YOU'RE PROB SCUM), Lambdadelta is secretly probably good at this game, Tierce is obviously good at this game, and DTMaster is ballsy as hell. I actually respect him for it, even if I feel impressed to vote for the man who is attempting to kill me.

[DTMaster]

@Jabber
1. I reread the Cabd posts and then realized that he checked in before post 100. I noted the read.

@Morph the Cat/Jabberwok
1. A point was raised about TIP's prior game activities and gambits. I want meta links/game references. How does dumb early pages TIP differ from learning TIP in terms of town play. Differences in play style and pattern recognition of prior game play works - but there is something off when TIP openly admitted to buddying to Tierce/Jabber slot that I dislike about the wagon. I just want these references, I have a working idea on something else and will dig that up later.

@TIP
Don't worry, my pen is mighter than any sword and someone is dying in the next battery flip.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Lady, I have no scum read on you. Who told you that? I am merely saying that your behaviour is kind of iffy, but that's all.
@Jabberwock, someone told me. I like to know my player list before I jump into a game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And I swear to god if the words "Null Read" escape your mouth, I'm fucking done.