Newbie 1433 - Game Over

[Skelda]

I am not buying that Nomninull is scum just yet. His voting for 2Pac is bad, for sure, but 2Pac is annoying, so I don't know that I blame him. At the same time, I'm not settling for a 2Pac lynch just yet.

Seriously, though, 2Pac, though, if you think this game is a joke and aren't at all serious, you won't enjoy this game or site much. Just a warning...

[TheFuzzylogic99]

If 2Pac is really serious about being a scum hunter and so sure Null and me are scum than he should write a brief explanation why we are scum and why we should be wagoned. He should give credible evidence what we did that we deserve to be lynch. Come on dawg prove that you are a great scum hunter like you say and that people should sheep you.

[2Pac]

It's my deathday, what up.

@Bob
Thats right playa! Hoppin' in the Winnebago! Rolling fools over. Thats my townie.

Come on dawg

@Fuzzyscum
WHAT UP DAWG!
Can't wriggle out of this!
Try to buddy me and then dis'
Never asked you to sheep me scum
and you claim I haven't contributed anything son?
Already out of RVS, getting shit done
What you done? Not post none. Not voted none.

Not going to respond to your useless request,
I work best, when I put your mind to the test,
Already got you scrambling, reaching for your vest,
Better put it on scum, next pull is twice to your chest.

@Skelda
Seriously in all seriousness, seriously.
Real talk tho, your almost playing as bad as Fuzzyscum, sheep me.
*cough* Or won't thou explain why thou has chosen to remain on the sidelines when a wagon hath presentedeth itself. It reads *ahem* suspiciously like an opportunistic scum-like plot.

[SafetyDance]

Votecount 1.2

SatanHellYeah (2):

Skelda, Mr_Ree

Nominull (2):

2Pac, archaebob

Ranawey (1):

SatanHellYeah

archaebob (1):

TheFuzzylogic99

Not voting

: Ranawey, Nominull, Core_H86

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-09-25 09:00:00). With 9 players, it's 5 to lynch.

Searching for a replacement for Core_H86

[TheFuzzylogic99]

unvote Archie

2Pac- I am starting to take Skelda side on this . You dont seem all that interested in playing and more interested in RPing. I ask you a simple task and you refuse. Not even that but you went deep into your RPing mode. You want people to sheep you without any good reason. You claim people are playing poorly but are playing really poor yourself.
You say sheep me every post as if you are saying look at me I am a townie , see I am scumhunting. I was not even looking to see if you were scummy bc I felt you were just a bad townie. I just wanted to see how you would react to being asked to defend your vote. Either you are a bad townie or bad scum. As you might say You cant get no cred until you earn on the street.

I dont know about the Null wagon. He kind of seems like an easy target and that is why he getting votes. Looking for someone to prove me wrong.

[Nominull]

Votecount 1.2

SatanHellYeah (2): Skelda, Mr_Ree

Nominull (2):

2Pac, archaebob

Ranawey (1):

SatanHellYeah

archaebob (1):

TheFuzzylogic99

Not voting

: Ranawey, Nominull, Core_H86

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-09-25 09:00:00). With 9 players, it's 5 to lynch.

Searching for a replacement for Core_H86

Is there some reason my vote on 2Pac wasn't counted? VOTE: 2Pac

[SafetyDance]

Voting Rules

1. Votes must be at the beginning of a new line, using vote tags or
   bold
   (VOTE: Player name/
   VOTE: Player name
   ). If you do not wish to lynch, you may VOTE: No Lynch/
   VOTE: No Lynch
   . Abbreviations, missing punctuation, and misspellings will be accepted as long as it is obvious to me who is being voted for. If I perceive it as a vote, it counts as a vote.
   
2. It is not necessary to explicitly unvote (UNVOTE: Player name/
   UNVOTE: Player name
   ) before voting someone else.
   
3. Once a majority of votes is reached (# of players / 2 + 1, rounded down), that person is lynched.
   
4. All living players, including the lynchee, may continue to post until I lock the thread.
   
5. If you are dead, that is it. Do not post.

Applied to the vote in 77 as well.

[Nominull]

VOTE: 2Pac

You didn't perceive it as a vote?

[Skelda]

2Pac, stop it. Stop being a Shakespearean gangster or whatever that is supposed to be. I can't read you because of your unnatural speech, and that unnerves me.

And Nomni, it needs to b on a new line.

[archaebob]

Nominull is using his annoyance with 2Pac as an excuse to avoid posting other content. Look at his iso. He hasn't said a word about anyone else. Not only that, but he doesn't intend to unless 2Pac drops the schtick. Well, how is that supposed to work? 2Pac isn't going to stop, you can tell. So what's Nominull's theory exactly? That because he has a legitimate complaint about someone's play style, he should not be expected to post

any

substantive content for a potentially indefinite period of time?

Picture for a moment you are scum. What could possibly be a more comfortable strategy than that?

[Nominull]

New rule: you can't say why something's scummy unless you can say why it's not townie. Oh oops that's content, I wasn't supposed to be posting any until 2Pac started to play for real. My apologies.

[Nominull]

"Annoyed at 2Pac for his dumbass gimmick" is a pretty easy town motivation for scum to hide in the shadow of. That's why 2Pac shouldn't provide it.

[Skelda]

Nomni, other than 2Pac, what are your reads? I'm reading you as stubborn town, but I don't want you to get caught up in tunneling 2Pac. Who do you think 2Pac's partner is?

[2Pac]

His voting for 2Pac is bad, for sure,

@Skelda
Why aren't you sheeping me goat?
Why haven't you voted?

It's either him or me -- champagne, Hennessey
A favorite of my homies when we floss, on our enemies

unvote Archie

As you might say You cant get no cred until you earn on the street.

I dont know about the Null wagon. He kind of seems like an easy target and that is why he getting votes. Looking for someone to prove me wrong.

@Fuzzyscum
Welcome to the streets, my streets,
Got plenty of pimp reasons for people to sheep me, post 45, post 61, post 108, OMGUS vote, Policy Claim Vote.

And playa how about you 'splain how you get,
claiming Nominull as an easy target?

20- RVS vote
22- Noncommital read on Satan
35- Press read by Ree
104- Read Satan as "inexperience player rather than a scum", null read on Skelda, then reverse your read in the same post and claim Satan and Ree as scummy reads. Claim I is lurking, give no read.
115- Town reads me like a boss, pushes scum case on Ree
121- Town reads Bob
124- Back-peddles town read on me shortly after I call him scum
126- Tunnels me
129- Continues tunneling me, claims Nominull is an easy target

YOU got some 'splain to do (in addition to the above claim that Nominull is an easy target):
'splain 104 where you reverse your read on Satan in the same post?
'splain why you haven't voted for a wagon son.
'splain why you haven't been scum hunting aside from posing one question to Ree in 35 which you didn't even follow up on after his 100% claim in 35.
'splain how non-committal reads is pro-town PLAYAH!

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ 2Pac.....finally you put aside your gangster act and posted a readable post.That is to say a post where we can get some read on what side you are on.Getting you to start contributing to the town without annoying everyone was my goal. Hey if it took me poking you a bit and you taking it as scum behavior than thats okay. If we are to catch these scumbag and win the game we need everyone to play a good game. Can't help it Ima competive person at heart. As far trying to be your buddy, I dont care what you think. Whether you are my buddy or not does not change my goal.

I want to be the first to say welcome to the game

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Rvs Vote- common at the begining of game. I believed at that point in this game everyone was doing RVS votes

Satan- not going to deny that it was non comittal. I needeed more info and evidence. Why make rush judgement. We have 14 days ( 11 now) to get a good lynch. I think we should use that time to get one. We dont want to lynch a townie in order to get wagon.

Ree_ His post seemed odd and I wanted to get more info from him in order to see why he thought Satan was scum and also to find out his motives.And yes it was a scum read on Ree bc his action was scummy to me. I did not get the point to his reaction test.


Bob- bc he reads as town to me

2Pac read_ your behavior was annoying me and others. I was just trying to push you to take the game seriously and contribute to helping catch scum. It seemed to me all your post were just accusing people bc they attacked you or were calling you out on your behavior. You were not really scum hunting at that time imho.


Alledge Back peddling_ I was reading you as townie still but your behavior and RP was starting to make me to think that it it was all to hide the abilities to get good reads on you. Something I felt was scummy behavior.


The last two were reaction tests to see how you would react as well to get you to focus ,. I think my method sort of works.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

* in order to just get a quick wagon.

[archaebob]

Firstly, you guys should really have votes up. I know it's counter-intuitive to vote for people before you feel completely certain they are scum. However, it has been discovered over the course of many years of continuous play that town does better when everyone stakes out a position. It gives us more information, more urgency, more reactions. Pick your current top suspect and tag them with your vote. Use that pressure as leverage to get answers to your questions. Don't fret; nobody's going to quick lynch. If they do, we'll have our first scum. Right now the timidity is hurting us.

Now, everyone please pay attention:

New rule: you can't say why something's scummy unless you can say why it's not townie. Oh oops that's content, I wasn't supposed to be posting any until 2Pac started to play for real. My apologies.

Stupid, invalid point. I laid out a narrative for why Nominull's play hurts town and is comfortable for scum. Because it is scummy, it is not townie. This is obvious. I'm not going to get into a logical tug of war with him beyond this.

The second sentence about posting content is a cute line, but we should take note of the fact that it is still

not

content because it doesn't involve his reaction to other players. It's also exaggerated in its glibness. "Look at me, I'm

soooo

not intimidated by you, archaebob. Let me prove it by showing you just how confident and snarky I can be."

Ask yourself: does he really have a legitimate reason to insist on his stance like this? He still hasn't posted any reads. In fact, he hasn't even said 2Pac is

scummy

. Just that he's annoying, and we should policy lynch him.

"Annoyed at 2Pac for his dumbass gimmick" is a pretty easy town motivation for scum to hide in the shadow of. That's why 2Pac shouldn't provide it.

I agree that 2Pac provides this opportunity to scum. However, it's interesting that Nominull says this when right now he is the

only

player taking that opportunity. His entire play has basically been to say he's annoyed at 2Pac for his dumbass gimmick, and to do

literally nothing else

. How's that for hiding in the shadow of a plausible town motivation? Using his own reasoning, that makes him the most likely candidate for scum.

And frankly, I've started to find 2Pac entertaining and helpful. His schtick is not an ideal way to play, but he's certainly done more to put his reads out there and help town than some other players. Infinitely more than Nominull.

[Skelda]

2Pac is not helpful! His posting style is pointless, makes it difficult to read him, and makes it difficult to figure out his posts. Maybe a 2Pac-Archie scumteam?

VOTE: Archaebob. I don't know why you are deciding that a newbie employing a strategy that hurts the town and distracts players is helpful, but it isn't and 2Pac should stop.

[2Pac]

@Skelda
WHUT are you YEEEEAAAAHHHH confused about OHHHHHKKKKKAY?
*cough* I'll certainly be glad to explain anything I've posted home slice, especially my most simple question that I hath posed to you

Caint understand why you won't
Tell the world why you refuse to vote
No I just caint understand why you won't
Tell the world why you refuse to vote, goat

[2Pac]

Caint understand why you won't
Tell the world why you refuse to vote
No I just caint understand why you won't
Tell the world why you refuse to vote

^Above is the radio edit directed at Fuzzylogic, Skelda has voted for Bob in his last post

[Skelda]

@Skelda
WHUT are you YEEEEAAAAHHHH confused about OHHHHHKKKKKAY?
*cough* I'll certainly be glad to explain anything I've posted home slice, especially my most simple question that I hath posed to you

Caint understand why you won't
Tell the world why you refuse to vote
No I just caint understand why you won't
Tell the world why you refuse to vote, goat

I did just vote, and my vote was on Satan before that. And don't pretend that wasn't to me, you put goat in the rhyme. I don't even think you read this thread very thoroughly, which is kind of scummish, even though Bob is still my top read.

I'm not confused about your posts, it is just annoying trying to figure out what you are trying to say when you post in that manner since it includes so much fluff.

[Ranawey]

I'll be v/la until I fix my laptop or return home, sorry guys :c

[Ranawey]

How funny, it suddenly started to work. Anyways, I'm on a trip, will try to catch up, but excuse me if I'm not able to.

[SafetyDance]

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