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Lost Butterfly (5): Pyrotechnics, ProHawk, zMuffinMan, Lord Mhork, 1baldeagle1
Garuda (1): uʍop ǝpısdn
zMuffinMan (1): BBmolla
VoidedMafia (1): Lost Butterfly
ProHawk (1): VoidedMafia

Not Voting (12): PeregrineV, Nero Cain, Seanald, guille2015, Garuda, morph the cat, Banakai, Harakiri, Hermy, Zdenek, DoctorPepper, Klick



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So, when I make a response to it, you guys don't to have click post links to find it.

This is how I always make cases.

In post 115, 1baldeagle1 wrote:

In post 63, Lost Butterfly wrote:GODDAMN FUCKING QUOTE TAGS.

Oh no! The evil quote tags have attacked!

I mean, shit like this really undermines a case.

I'm just emphasizing the uselessness of the post. Please note, that I'm not call it fluff. I just went ahead and quoted the whole ISO.

In post 118, 1baldeagle1 wrote:

In post 116, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:is that a case or just a quote of every post they've made?

The latter is called ISO.

Yes, I went through his posts and it was

mostly just claiming/questions/answering questions and trying to derail his own wagon.

What is it about a player doing the bolded that strikes you as scummy?

None of it really helps town.

Although, the question part does a bit, but it was just claiming questions.

I'm not convinced, baldeagle.

P-EDIT: Why, exactly, should the neighborizer be claiming the people he or she's going to neighborize? That is not information that needs to be public until either one or more of the people in it are sure one of their own is scum, or until a situation like last game shows up where it is beneficial to claim them. I suppose there is merit in having the neighborizer claim, but not those who will be in the neighborhood.

In post 122, zMuffinMan wrote:do you think LB is town? or you just don't think they're scum?

Given how little I'm liking bald's push on them, I'm starting to think they're town. At the very least I don't think they're scum. I like their most recent post as well.

In post 122, zMuffinMan wrote:it seems to have something to do with #103, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Idk. Did that really look like a good post to you?

In post 128, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I'm just emphasizing the uselessness of the post. Please note, that I'm not call it fluff. I just went ahead and quoted the whole ISO.

So you're taking a post of them complaining about their inability to quote properly (which is completely alignment irrelevant), and using it to fluff up your case? K. I'm glad you made it worse.



P-EDIT: There's no scum motivation in it, either.

In post 128, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I'm just emphasizing the uselessness of the post. Please note, that I'm not call it fluff. I just went ahead and quoted the whole ISO.

In post 21, 1baldeagle1 wrote:

In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.

Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.

In post 49, 1baldeagle1 wrote:No, I was just used to being in smaller games, where there's less scum.

In post 66, 1baldeagle1 wrote:There's a dayvig in this game?

In post 75, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Becuase, I don't usually check it. >.>

You obviously did not read the post. I said, I wasn't calling it fluff, I was saying it had no meaning.

Your manipulation of my words in order to vote me is cute, though.

Well that's quite a lot of pages... Imma be reading for the time being guess we missed RVS?

In post 131, Voidedmafia wrote:Did that really look like a good post to you?

Considering it was a point against someone you viewed as scummy and are currently voting for, logically, it shouldn't have looked that bad for you... at least from where I am sitting.

@voided,

why couldn't LB be other mafia if baldy is scum? what about LB's most recent post did you like (or think is town)?

and i don't see anything particularly telling one way or another about #103. why did you think it was scummy enough to warrant a vote?

also what happened to you thinking baldeagle was just out of his depth in a large game? that read reversed again rather quickly.

What's your point, uwop?

In post 134, Harakiri wrote:Well that's quite a lot of pages... Imma be reading for the time being guess we missed RVS?

just vote for Nacho

In post 121, Lost Butterfly wrote:Pyrotammy, I'd like to write you off as town, because I feel like your intro to this game has been more in keeping with your town self, but the more I think of it, the more your reasons for voting me REALLY bug me. So I'd like answers.

Firstly, "YOU ASKED MAGUA QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GAME. HOW DID YOU NOT REALIZE THAT NEIGHBOURIZER WAS AN AWESOME ROLE" (my questions were more technical ones about how abilities resolve; also, my point with your post was more "Why would you claim to have bid $100?" than "Why ask the neighbourizer to claim?") is a terrible point, but anyway.

I actually am fine with the people voting me because my claim is fishy (although granted, I'm not exactly sure what the

scum

motivation is for claiming to have bid $80 instead of $100, I'm well aware that the way I claimed looked

weird

).

In post 51, Pyrotechnics wrote:

In post 36, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 19, Pyrotechnics wrote:We only started with $100. All of those items went for over $100.

Ah, scum gets more money? Lame.

So you considered bidding $101 on any of those abilities? Also, what made you decide to bid on Vote Freezer in particular? Did you bid more than $11 on it?

Garuda and upside down, enlighten me with the thought process behind sharing with the town that you <i>didn't</i> get roles. Also, Empire, why do you want <i>neighbourizer</i> in particular to claim?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP NINJA-ING ME.

VOTE: Lost Butterfly

One: You're responding to me when you should be asking baldeagle about vote freezer.

Two: I bid $100 on neighborizer as that's all I have.

Three: Garuda hasn't posted yet.

Four: Empire is part of Garuda. I'm the one who wants the neighborizer to claim. It should be pretty self-explanatory. The scum teams can win together. They have the cop role. Once they find each other, they can communicate through a neighborhood. (This is actually pretty certain. Last game it cost me over $500 to win the neighborizer from scum who had won cop and found the other team.) So, the neighborizer needs to claim so that we can evaluate them and keep track of the neighborhood if need be. Last game we were lucky and town won neighborizer both times and we used it really effectively, and we made public who won the neighborizer.

Fixed broken quote tag.

Firstly, this was just when people were starting to throw suspicion on me. Secondly, even if you take into account that you didn't realize I'd got Garuda and you mixed up, I just realized that NONE of this is even alignment relevant. The closest thing to an actual "case" is One...and I

am

asking baldeagle about vote freezer in that post, so...huh?

I couldn't care less whether or not you LIKE why I find you suspicious. If you know me and If you know my town self, you know that I don't think that early game suspicions have to be awesome and you push where something feels off no matter how small it may be. The first point does look like it's questioning me, so it looks really lazy on your part, and it looks like you're throwing something on me just to do it. But what really caught me as off is the calling me Empire and asking questions of Garuda, who hadn't even posted. You'd also know if you recognize me and my town game that the amount of time I pay attention to early game suspicion by other people is about *-* much, so you can't throw that against me either. It just feels off to me that you're getting all of that confused.

You do realize that my question to you about you asking Magua questions about roles is AFTER I had already voted you. So, are you faulting me for questioning you to try to determine your alignment further? Are you serious? You do understand you're the Mina who in a Westeros game asked the mod every single questions available and trapped scum day one because of that? So, yeah, for me that if you asked Magua a million questions about all the role interactions I do wonder why you didn't understand the neighborizer potential problem. If you meant why I claimed to have bid $100, why didn't you ask that. And I don't know why that's such a problem as that's how much I bid, especially when you came out and claimed how much you bid on your role. So, what's your point again?

In post 137, 1baldeagle1 wrote:What's your point, uwop?

I think my point is pretty obvious.

Those posts have no meaning? Okay.

In post 104, zMuffinMan wrote:

lb wrote:what's your current read on baldeagle?

maybe scum. i don't believe the "omg more than 3 scums!??!" thing, all the "misunderstandings" he's had about hthe setup look fake. why are you specifically asking me this?

I actually asked you (and Voidedmafia) this because I thought baldeagle looked really past a certain point (so for the opposite). I'm in agreement that his first post looked like more of a scumslip (and was hoping he'd say something like "I bid $110", since I dunno, he seems kind of clueless), but then he just read as really eager bewildered town. I'll give quotes if someone wants substantiation (this game is moving too quickly, so I'd rather keep it brief). But he clearly does not look like he's part of an informed minority. It's mostly a gut read, but it's a strong gut read. Like I said, I actually LIKE your line of questioning on me, but I didn't like that you weren't picking up on the same things I was re: bald. I feel like this is the kind of VI read scum cling more naturally to.

Voided, if it makes you feel better, you're actually making me feel slightly guilty about my vote on you. But why are you defending me this hard? I'm town, but there's no way you can be sure of it this early; I mean, I've mostly been on the defensive so far and this game has been open for barely an hour, so I haven't even had to do anything that looks all that town.

(Well, to add to my recent post, I find Muffin's reasons for suspecting baldeagle plausible.

Hey, BBmolla, why the fuck is your vote on Muffin, particularly since you've been calling multiple other people scum?)

By the way, we decided not to advertise last night. Who wants to continue the advertisement claim?

In post 108, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 93, zMuffinMan wrote:voided is scum

Ha.

What'cha got, then?

P-EDIT: Vote me, now? That's not nice, Mina.

I largely adverted EV for myself. Had thought of the possibility for better people than me to get it, but largely for myself (and to make sure scum didn't advert or get it later).

Bald does have the sound of someone who's not used to larges and feels a bit over his head, but his recent posts don't make me think he's town.

ED2:

Vote: Prohawk

That's what you went for?


PE3: If you remember, I wasn't in it until the last couple nights of the game. Also, they didn't claim they had neighborzer until it was necessary to finish the stranglehold we already had on the game. So that's not even relevant, and I still don't see why whoever got it needs to claim now.

I don't see the purpose of your proposal, either, so.

This is why voided is scum btw. What town player starts with a small pool of money (100 bucks) KNOWING that scum has hidden mechanics to have an advantage, and then expects to ALSO win the auction for the same? The mindset he's presenting here is faked and doesn't fit in what I'd think anyone who advertised did.

We didn't advertise, obviously, I wanted to keep all our money to try to get neighborizer.

Well, I assumed neighborizer wasn't popular, so we advertised it and went all-in on getting it. Sadly, 90 was not enough. Who would have thought Neighborizer so popular...

And I don't care if we be past it, VOTE: Harakiri on principle.

LB wrote:I thought baldeagle looked really obviously town past a certain point

which point? give me specific post numbers that made you think this if you don't want to quote wall.

LB wrote:I didn't like that you weren't picking up on the same things I was re: bald. I feel like this is the kind of VI read scum cling more naturally to.

*shrug* the reason i said "maybe scum" is because i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt right now that he just be a bewildered VI.

Oh I didn't even think of the advertising aspect, that makes it even more uncertain that $100 bid on it means it went to town.