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Ok so, my vote stays on undo because he's been screaming scum to me since 53 (so I guess my vote on him got serious on page 3 and not page 2 as I said before).
While I could see up to that point what he must have thought with his reaction to my post (and he wasn't the only one finding it odd), he from there started to retort to me with how I suck at argumenting, without himself answering to my arguments, basically going into "lalala I'm right you're wrong" mode, something I don't sense as town.


Someone that did something similar is Doc, but he chose the telling people to fuck off route.

Still they both got a weird reaction at some point and showed to place their priority on bringing on their arguments rather than on talking things crearly, as if they had already chose that this was gonna be what they'd do in the thread.



Other than that, I still don't understand Nat, but seeing her talking with other players (the posts between her and CooLDoG above all) is helping.

Nat will you ever answer to my 67 post?

Sorry all, life just got crazy and I'm definitely not going to be able to keep up with this game. Good luck with it all!

Apologies for lack of posts today; Skype mafia ate my game time. More from me tomorrow.

hehHAHEAHHHAHAH

ive always wanted to play with fate
i think i will sheep him to commemorate this opportunity


most interesting is the precisely formatted first-vote

Still feeling awesome about my Doc vote.

@NicCage: Reads please. Why are you still voting me?

Good to know my fame will never die

such power

such lack of responsibility

SUCH CHAOS

you won't count votes on CDB....

are you being fucking serious right now?

oh auto-vote counter

I should've known it was you being lazy as fuck rather than having a stick up your ass



for fucks sake

He didn't even prepare for abbreviations!

Fate, I have heard a lot about you but never had the pleasure. Describe yourself please.

Jordan, the automated vote counter isn't coded by the hosts but by a third party who gives the hosts a link during the testing phase. Don't blame the mod.

In post 116, Natirasha wrote:post...

Fair points. I still have my eye on you to see if your scum hunting picks up.

Freak, the point is that your posts don't seem to logically follow a town perspective. All of your posts seem to flow from a defensive position instead of an offensive, scumhunting one. your 3rd (was it) post is all about trying to look like town. "I made a bad post in your eyes, I'll not do that any more. Thanks for telling me what you look for" is how I read your posting. And your next post admits that you are trying to play with what the town conception of is.

In post 122, ~Jordan` wrote:i was told that it might be protown to announce thar freak is one of my stronger townreads

This post strikes me the wrong way becuase the justification of this is to look town.

In post 127, Freak wrote:Ok so, my vote stays on undo because he's been screaming scum to me since 53 (so I guess my vote on him got serious on page 3 and not page 2 as I said before).
While I could see up to that point what he must have thought with his reaction to my post (and he wasn't the only one finding it odd), he from there started to retort to me with how I suck at argumenting, without himself answering to my arguments, basically going into "lalala I'm right you're wrong" mode, something I don't sense as town.

and the omgus comes out. Freak's play is classic scum play. "I want to look town. My play is called out for being overly defensive, so I'll make myself look offensive by voting the person who is giving me problems." Also your basic argument against undo is that he is wrong, not that he is scum.

In post 131, Fate wrote:hehHAHEAHHHAHAH

hi fate.

In post 140, Titus wrote:Fate, I have heard a lot about you but never had the pleasure. Describe yourself please.

Jordan, the automated vote counter isn't coded by the hosts but by a third party who gives the hosts a link during the testing phase. Don't blame the mod.

i know exactly who produced the vote counter and who i am "blaming"

This post strikes me the wrong way becuase the justification of this is to look town.

No, I was just making a reference to an earlier assertion that pointing out your townreads is good. The reason I said it was to curtail the possibility of a Freak wagon actually growing to any significant size.

I can only imagine the association tells.

syllable detection is actually a rather nontrivial problem
hence the quotation marks around "blame"
though I do think the vote counter could be easily made for flexible if mods could manually add nickname—username associations for the program to recognize
but neither here nor there

*and the omgus comes out. Freak's play is classic scum play. "I want to look town. My play is called out for being overly defensive, so I'll make myself look offensive by voting the person who is giving me problems." Also your basic argument against undo is that he is wrong, not that he is scum.

OMGUS is dumb behavior, not scum behavior.

Furthermore, it seems like you're misrepresenting Freak's point. I might be wrong, so let me ask you one question: can you show me where in the post you are quoting is Freak's assertion that undo is scum because he's wrong? Is this the beef Freak has with undo?

Sorry I was really busy on the weekend will actually contribute later.

CooLDoG, it looks to me like you're building a narrative around my posts without actually reading them. Is that what you call scumhunting? Because if that's the case you won't see me doing it -- and if you do, please call me out on it.


Here's the focus on mine and undo's posts so far: I hope this kind of links work

Now, with that in a new tab, tell me where I said things like "I won't be doing that anymore" or admitted to be playing as I think town should play.

Then as you scroll to the center of the back-and-forth, look at my answers to undo, and see for yourself if they are defensive answers or if there is an offensive to it.

So when you'll finally get to 127 you can read it for what it says, and see that I'm not voting undo because he sucks, but because he's avoiding all real confrontation and just blindly bringing forward the idea that I'm scum -- something I dont perceive as town behavior.

hey freak
why do u think cooldig does the way he does

like, knowingly does the way he does? I just thought he kind of skimmed through the posts really. you think there's a strategy to it?

In post 133, ~Jordan` wrote:ive always wanted to play with fate
i think i will sheep him to commemorate this opportunity

vote: CDB

Jordan, do you remember this?

In post 51, ~Jordan` wrote: I think Doc Holliday's the scummiest person here and plan to push for his lynch for the rest of the day unless I change my mind.

So a player you heard about comes in, votes without stating his reasoning, and you just blindly follow suit? Is this all it takes for you to change your mind? What kind of erratic play is this?

Oh, and you still haven't explained why you think Freak is town.

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In post 109, Titus wrote:I'm going to deliberately avoid interrupting that to see if Freak can model constructive scumhunting questions.

Freak has posted five times since this. What do you think about him, Titus?

In post 148, undo wrote:So a player you heard about comes in, votes without stating his reasoning, and you just blindly follow suit? Is this all it takes for you to change your mind? What kind of erratic play is this?

Nat: is this the culture shock you were talking about?