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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:12 am
by Juls
He didn't say his alignment would change he said he didn't think he would flip "N0 cop"
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:13 am
by geists
In post 124, Belisarius wrote: In post 121, Josh_B wrote:I could actually imagine a scum, sacrificing themselves for a power role they didn't want to lose
I can't.
I also can't imagine a N0 cop
who expects their alignment to change
outing a factual result D1, though.
Not interested in voting Josh.
I don't understand where the bolded comes from.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:26 am
by Kagami
I'm inclined to think that Who is not a lyncher, and also not a N0 cop, but I still think josh is scum.
We should wait for Who to confirm or deny, but if he says it's legit, I see absolutely no reason not to lynch josh, and it would make no sense at all to lynch Who.
Who said his role changed, not alignment. If that is true, it makes perfect sense that he would claim his result.
It makes no sense for Who to be scum, unless josh were also scum and this is a silly gambit, in which case lynching josh is still the correct action.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:29 am
by geists
you sound pretty mechanical about all this, Kagami.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:29 am
by Kagami
He said his role changed after copifying.
Given the prior game, it's entirely possible he had a mechanic similar to the artefact that gave him investigative powers that he then passed on.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:29 am
by Kagami
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:30 am
by Empking
Vote Count Six: Ready for more pics?
Josh_B (5) - Who, Cho, geists, MTD, Juls
Who (3)-FormerFish, Josh_B, vezokpiraka
Cho (1) - Zephyrus
Not Voting: Kagami, PhDScar, Belisarius, Nobody Special
With Thirteen alive, it is Seven to lynch
(expired on 2014-05-10 13:21:24)
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:32 am
by geists
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:39 am
by Belisarius
Juls got it right when she corrected me. I interpreted "I don't know what I will flip" as an expectation of a whole new role card.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:43 am
by Josh_B
In post 123, Juls wrote:That doesn't make sense. You voted kagami for saying her role didn't match her pick and now you are saying your role doesn't match your pick.
No, I'm saying the flavor is hidden, because the Mod advertised it as hidden, and my role matches my random unknown character pick.
Which is why I think Kagami has more information than she's telling, because she's saying the flavor is unrelated to our picks.
I might be reading it wrong, but she differentiated her pick from JA or GoT, when I'm thinking of them as synonyms.
This is what started the N0 attack in the first place.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:46 am
by Zephyrus
In post 134, Josh_B wrote: In post 123, Juls wrote:That doesn't make sense. You voted kagami for saying her role didn't match her pick and now you are saying your role doesn't match your pick.
my role matches my random unknown character pick.
Wait it was random? I thought you chose your character
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:47 am
by geists
In post 134, Josh_B wrote: In post 123, Juls wrote:That doesn't make sense. You voted kagami for saying her role didn't match her pick and now you are saying your role doesn't match your pick.
No, I'm saying the flavor is hidden, because the Mod advertised it as hidden, and my role matches my random unknown character pick.
Which is why I think Kagami has more information than she's telling, because she's saying the flavor is unrelated to our picks.
I might be reading it wrong, but she differentiated her pick from JA or GoT, when I'm thinking of them as synonyms.
This is what started the N0 attack in the first place.
How does your role match your character?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:48 am
by Kagami
My role appears to have nothing to do with my pick, nor does the flavor seem at all related to GoT or JA.
My pick was from JA or GoT (Maybe geists can guess which?). I said that my role PM has nothing to do with said pick (and you claim that yours doesn't either). "My role appears to have nothing to do with JA or GoT" does not mean the same thing.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:48 am
by Kagami
"No, I'm saying the flavor is hidden, because the Mod advertised it as hidden, and my role matches my random unknown character pick. "
what?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:16 am
by Cho
For the record, I think Josh_B is scum regardless of whether Who is telling the truth or not. The former's responses don't sound genuine, but like he's overcompensating for some reason.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:17 am
by Kagami
More importantly, he just claimed his role matches his pick, when earlier he claimed vanilla.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:19 am
by Juls
@Josh - Are you saying you have a role but it doesn't do anything?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:20 am
by Juls
In other words, are you "Edmund Bertram" or are you "Vanilla Townie"?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:29 am
by Juls
Oh and sorry for the triple post but we are expecting bad weather tonight. If I disappear you know why...
Mod: Please see above
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:18 am
by Formerfish
Unvote
Didn't realize anyone would actually look at Who right now. Silly people.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:41 am
by Josh_B
I'm saying that my U-pick was Edmund Bertram. It isn't part of my role PM.
My role PM ONLY says vanilla townie.
edmund bertram is a character that *I* think would be a vanilla townie, but it hasn't been confirmed by the mod.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:50 am
by geists
In post 144, Formerfish wrote:Unvote
Didn't realize anyone would actually look at Who right now. Silly people.
I don't really get how this unvote and comment are related to each other.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:01 am
by geists
Unvote:
Pending stuff and things.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:15 am
by Formerfish
I'm not entirely active in the thread right now and was surprised to see that I was part of a semi legit wagon.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:34 pm
by Who
I was lying.
Real claim: N0 Gunsmith
Gunsmith guilty on Josh rather than Cop. Meaning his VT claim just confirmed him as scum.
Everything about the changing role and not being sure what I'd flip was true. I left the breadcrumb of "Josh
shot
the intro townie" and "horsification
gun
" to let town know "Gunsmith guilty on Josh" in case I died and had an informative flip. Also, my new role is significantly weaker than gunsmith, bordering on VT-useless.
Faked the cop guilty in order to avoid giving him the out of claiming vig or something unless he actually was vig or something. But he wasn't.
Also, Juls asked me to flavorclaim earlier, the N0 gunsmith was a totally ordinary gunsmith PM nothing to do with characters, then the unexpected rolechange was more flavory, but with no explanation of the change.