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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:03 am

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In post 118, Jeesh5 wrote:I haven't played with trickster before he was sent my way by way of some1 else. this is the first time I have hydra-ed with some1 cold.

I can see why we were recommended as a likely pair. I can kind of see why. he likes to get his hands dirty and make waves, which is something I tend to do. he also tends to take a more leadership position in a game. I see what you mean by wake but he is considerably less retarded.

so why was that post by victor's scumposting? I have him as unsure. the only thing that stood out was the vote on metal and the move to bolla is hhhmm. can't remember if that is a classic scumtell or not but I have seen it before.

what do you think of bulba and kazimara

moi is leaning mebbe town on pants.
I kind of liked Wake and iirc his reads weren't terrible, so I'll interpret that as an endorsement.

Ewwwwwwing the no lynch votes instead of questioning them logically (like Dr Pants did), discrediting your slot via self-deprecation was horribly scummy, and the fluff:content ratio is imbalanced.

Bulb's opening was good but I don't understand at all and I think he's more likely to play dumb about something like that as scum than town.

Re: Kazimara, I'm a sucker for Supernatural GIFs so they get to live a while longer. I don't like their Pants push though, I like he's town too.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:05 am

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In post 119, Jeesh5 wrote:the onl thing I DON'T like about pants is the misrep of victor's post there isn't any aTe in that and I am surprised you have not noticed.

I don't really get the buddying point either.
I'm not overly concerned that he used the wrong buzzword. There was definitely a lot of unwarranted discrediting going in that post (against you, and metal sonic, and bulb to a certain extent, although that one at least looks vaguely like scumhunting).
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:08 am

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In post 122, Jeesh5 wrote:the cog dis in metal is kinda strong. his gtkas doesn't really give me a sense of his scum game. at all. so I don't understand why he tried to use it as a reference.

and I don't like him being so vague about any scum game he was in other than xeno2. what is weird is that on 1 hand he says he gets universally townread and on the other he was fighting off a lynch with hydravarsoon all game.

so the self-analysis doesn't match up with the evidence he has provided. he seems super confident which is unlike metal. I think he is 1 of those players who ENJOY playing scum. he is also trying to give the impression of letting me in but keeping me at arms length.

he is in the unsure pile but I would like to hear why you had the confidence in a townread on him to sheep his vote and vote victor.
I'm pretty sure I can't read Metal Sonic at all, and I don't know what you're talking about at the end? I don't have him as town and he isn't voting Victor.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:15 am

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God damn I hate hydras

Victor seems fake as fuck but it might just be him
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:19 am

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whoops I confused metal with some1 else.

I thought he was pushing for victor cos of his endorsement of that ana thing for voting victor. but he is still voting for ana.

it looks like perv started the wagon.

your victor vote seems a bit lazy.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:39 am

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Cool a Victor wagon. Let's rock.
In post 108, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 102, VictorDeAngelo wrote:What's AtE?

this kills all credibility of posts you make, js.
Well everyone has learn sometime.

Ana and Pie just voting for the hell of it. Not as concerned because right now:
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was :scumposting:
Looks like the scummiest vote. The lazy link to the only lengthy post I made seems like trying to force a reason.

I like that Jeesh called Messiah out already.
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Ewwwwwwing the no lynch votes instead of questioning them logically (like Dr Pants did), discrediting your slot via self-deprecation was horribly scummy, and the fluff:content ratio is imbalanced.
Well that's how I roll. You'll just have to get to use to it.
In post 128, BBmolla wrote:God damn I hate hydras

Victor seems fake as fuck but it might just be him
Well I don't like you either. :P
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:49 am

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well now THAT post seemed like cosying up

so you don't like molla? why aren't you pushing your case?
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:50 am

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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:53 am

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In post 129, Jeesh5 wrote:your victor vote seems a bit lazy.
...ok?
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:53 am

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In post 131, Jeesh5 wrote:well now THAT post seemed like cosying up

so you don't like molla? why aren't you pushing your case?
I voted him. People seem to want to wagon me more.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:54 am

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Like I could insult your vote on someone you just told me you aren't sure is scum but that would be counterproductive.

Do you have a better idea?
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:56 am

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In post 135, Messiah Complex wrote:Like I could insult your vote on someone you just told me you aren't sure is scum but that would be counterproductive.

Do you have a better idea?
How could I be sure he's scum this early. It just seems like a good place to start.

It's not like his response was awe inspiring.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:58 am

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That was directed at mollie, not you.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 7:59 am

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oh, well disregard then.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 8:11 am

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In post 135, Messiah Complex wrote:Like I could insult your vote on someone you just told me you aren't sure is scum but that would be counterproductive.

Do you have a better idea?
since when did we not try to sort out our unsure reads. metal is still unsure.

I think I might lean victor as town and wondering about the pushes. gonna talk to trickster.

2 wagons by my estimation. wouldn't it be wonderful if we had a vc by now
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 8:27 am

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In post 118, Jeesh5 wrote:
also mod this half of the head is permanently v/la on weekends tia
Good to know. The other half is fine I'm guessing, so I won't consider you V/LA.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 8:30 am

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VC 1.2 (5/15/14)
PeregrineV (L-7)
Bulbazak (L-6) PeregrineV
Anatole Kuragin (L-6) Metal Sonic
Kcdaspot (L-7)
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Dr Pants (L-6) Ms Kazekirimara
Bane (L-7)
VictorDeAngelo (L-3) Dr Pants, Anatole Kuragin, InflatablePie, Messiah Complex
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Bbmolla (L-6) VictorDeAngelo
Metal Sonic (L-5) Jeesh5, Bbmolla
Ms Kazekirimara (L-6) Bulbazak
InflatablePie (L-7)
No Lynch (L-7)
Not Voting (2)

13 alive, 7 to lynch. Deadline is the morning of 5/28/14.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 8:37 am

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sober+awake re-read time!
page 1 only thing of note was MS + pants doing the questions-to-the-mod thing, which is a nulltell. Still interested in why MsKaze had Pants as a serious vote.

MS's SK comment strikes me as odd (which he clears up later). nulltell I think, I can't gleam any alignment indication from the comment. BBMolla disagrees and I don't like his jump here. his post in also feels off to me.

is a good question coming from MsKaze, +townpoints.

I'm going to assume is Jeesh taking the piss out of Kaze's response, which I actually think is a bit of a snappy response. he proves me wrong by asking a plethora of questions... initially I thought this was townie (a duh) but I could see this being scummy; asking a bunch of questions that mean nothing and not following up (bulba kind of shares my sentiment in ).

@Trickster-Jeesh: mind sharing some of the reads you've gleamed so far with your information? if you've outright said anything, sorry, my eyes just glazed over when I was skimming pages 2-4ish.

Victor's is terrible, a lot of the post just seems forced/artificial to me. also pinged a bit from the voting for MS and immediately switching to Molla. that's a vote I just don't get at all, especially since Molla was on MSonic. really not a fan of the "hey I'm gonna vote this guy for claiming there's an SK then WOAHHEY OTHERGUY VOTED FOR FIRSTGUY, /wagon" reasoning.

in the same vein, Anatole's MS -> Victor vote pings me a bit, but since I agree with his current vote I'm a little skewed towards this one being 'meh'.

@P5: - what's with the Bulba vote? no comment on Victor?

@mollie-Jeesh - you wrote off Victor as 'unsure' and now you're saying he's town. mind sharing what's bringing you to this read?

PeregrineV - null
Anatole Kuragin - null
Jeesh5 - nulltownie*
VictorDeAngelo - scummy
Bbmolla - nullscummy
Ms Kazekirimara - townie
everyone else hasn't really stuck out/done anything notable yet

*Jeesh gets put in the 'nulltownie' pile for now because the mollie head seems to be trying to figure things out, but I'm still curious about the other head's response to my question above
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 8:42 am

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I have a townread on PV should I be worried
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 8:56 am

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how can anyone have a read on PV? hes posted three times
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:23 am

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2nd post was my thoughts exactly, and the vote on Bulba is townish
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:37 am

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In post 142, InflatablePie wrote:@P5: 132 - what's with the Bulba vote? no comment on Victor?
If I wait to long to figure him out, he endgames me.

Victor's was on the townside of null, if just barely. It definitely didn't deserve the spat of votes. But, is it a flavor-of-the-moment wagon, or is there meat behind it?

Por example-
In post 116, InflatablePie wrote:vote: Victor
choo chooooooooo
Seems to indicate your joining to start a train on Victor. That can be for many reasons, but generally for reactions.
In post 142, InflatablePie wrote:VictorDeAngelo - scummy
Here you have him as scummy.

Someone else said something about 100 being an empty post, etc.

Worse was Anatole, but just cause I don't like their vote on Victor, it I haven't figured out if it's scummy yet.

But all this is just lots of words for "Just watching right now."
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:39 am

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In post 143, BBmolla wrote:I have a townread on PV should I be worried
In post 144, Dr Pants wrote:how can anyone have a read on PV? hes posted three times
In post 145, BBmolla wrote:2nd post was my thoughts exactly, and the vote on Bulba is townish
I could have a million answers for this, but I'll settle for

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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:52 am

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liking pants more and moar

and perv, but not totally
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 10:12 am

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Well, to clarify, I voted for him because of post #100, which I pointed out what completely pointless in the post before the one where I voted.

I wasn't saying "fuck it idgaf lynch anyone yolo." It was more, in response to metal's post, me saying "fuck it, I would rather vote for victor all things considered."

but whatev idgaf yolo
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