Mini 1598: Mafia with a Twist 1 - The OK Corral (Over!)


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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:33 am

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:57 am

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I remember you being somewhat of a cock in a (or
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People make very bad impressions on me very easily.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:58 am

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Zoidberg wrote:Therefore there is guaranteed scum in the set { SleepyKrew, Konowa, Wolfy, MadCitrus, Maestro }.

K. Why?
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:19 am

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Maestro wrote:I remember you being somewhat of a cock in a (or
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People make very bad impressions on me very easily.

Sorry. I've been trying to be less abrasive.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:22 am

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Maestro wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:Therefore there is guaranteed scum in the set { SleepyKrew, Konowa, Wolfy, MadCitrus, Maestro }.

K. Why?


For reasons I outlined in that post. The wagon stalled, and I'm speculating that it's because there are already scum on it. If scum weren't on it they could pile on now, citing the multitude of arguments against me and then go for the mislynch. But that's not happening, the game became stagnant and I think it's because a good proportion of scum are already on my wagon, hoping it'll snowball into something bigger than it is.

Does that clarify?
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:31 am

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Zoid, that's tasty WIFOM and you know it.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:42 am

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M, iso madcitrus, and tell me if im on to something here.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:44 am

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Maestro wrote:Zoid, that's tasty WIFOM and you know it.

If you mean that it's subject to interpretation, then sure. But then again, nearly every part of this game is subject to interpretation.

"WIFOM" is this site's favourite way to avoid addressing an argument.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:45 am

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Zoidberg seems town to me...or at least I can think of at least 5 people I'd rather lynch if I had to right at this moment.

His argument is bad though; there are too many explanations for the "stalled" wagon.

I do agree though I'm not seeing a lot of scumhunting from MadCitrus. Forgive my vanity but I don't love it when people dodge my questions (and I feel vindicated that Klazam seems to want an explanation as well), so that's always a plus.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:53 am

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I don't see any reason why MadCitrus needs to be speculating about Survivors and SKs. If anyone claims Survivor I'm going to powerlynch them.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:58 am

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Zoidberg wrote:I don't see any reason why MadCitrus needs to be speculating about Survivors and SKs. If anyone claims Survivor I'm going to powerlynch them.

Thats the point. The only people worried about third parties specifically are either scum or third party, and both is nontown soooo
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:08 am

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Yeah I've been on the same page as you for a while regarding MadCitrus. He needs lynched.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:20 am

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The whole acting scummy to try and catch scum thing is dumb and ends up hurting town more often than not.

Zoidberg wrote:Not because I think he's a scumbuddy (because right now I'm reading Konowa p town) but because it looks like buddying up to Konowa and hoping we won't notice that MadCitrus is just piggybacking on Konowa's reads.

For what it is worth, I explained my vote in the post -after- MadCitrus voted. Honestly, I was not a fan of your mod vote either, but as I said earlier based on what Thesp said in the signup thread and due to automatic vote counter my view on that might be a little skewed.

There are a myriad of reasons why you wagon "stalled", Zoidberg. Sure, scum being on it is one. So is that it is an all town wagon and scum are cheering on from the sideline hoping that town will pile on. So is the possibility that scum see you as VI and are just avoiding the situation all together. That is what Maestro was talking about. You are focusing on just one of the scenarios and why your point of view is coming across very much as OMGUS.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:27 am

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Zoidberg wrote:So I hate RVS and thought I would instigate things to get the game rolling. I wanted to wagon Natirasha mostly for info, not because I find her particularly scummy, but mostly for info. I don't mind if that makes me look hella scummy and accrue a lot of votes if we get some decent info out of it. Notice how my wagon stalled? It's because there are scum on it. Probably 2, but at least one, guaranteed. They can't push the mislynch too hard or fast for fear of sticking their necks out.

This is really bothering me.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:37 am

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Konowa wrote:There are a myriad of reasons why you wagon "stalled", Zoidberg. Sure, scum being on it is one. So is that it is an all town wagon and scum are cheering on from the sideline hoping that town will pile on. So is the possibility that scum see you as VI and are just avoiding the situation all together. That is what Maestro was talking about. You are focusing on just one of the scenarios and why your point of view is coming across very much as OMGUS.

So which of the 3 scenarios you listed do you feel is most likely?
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:40 am

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Maybe your lynch hasn't gone through yet because no one is stupid enough to actually go through with a lynch this early.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:44 am

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There is also that.

At the moment, none. As that would require me to believe that you are town, which I do not.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:46 am

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Konowa wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:So I hate RVS and thought I would instigate things to get the game rolling. I wanted to wagon Natirasha mostly for info, not because I find her particularly scummy, but mostly for info. I don't mind if that makes me look hella scummy and accrue a lot of votes if we get some decent info out of it. Notice how my wagon stalled? It's because there are scum on it. Probably 2, but at least one, guaranteed. They can't push the mislynch too hard or fast for fear of sticking their necks out.

This is really bothering me.

Oh, I know why! Maybe because it doesn't mention StD and the dice at all? Or maybe the fact that RVS was already over by the time he voted Nati? Or possibly it has to do with him saying he voted for info without telling us what this info is?
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:54 am

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Konowa wrote:There are a myriad of reasons why you wagon "stalled", Zoidberg. Sure, scum being on it is one. So is that it is an all town wagon and scum are cheering on from the sideline hoping that town will pile on. So is the possibility that scum see you as VI and are just avoiding the situation all together. That is what Maestro was talking about. You are focusing on just one of the scenarios and why your point of view is coming across very much as OMGUS.

So which of the 3 scenarios you listed do you feel is most likely?

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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:16 pm

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(5): SleepyKrew, Konowa, Wolfy, MadCitrus, Maestro
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(3): Klazam, Save The Dragons, Zoidberg
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:24 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:Oh, I know why! Maybe because it doesn't mention StD and the dice at all? Or maybe the fact that RVS was already over by the time he voted Nati? Or possibly it has to do with him saying he voted for info without telling us what this info is?

Hey there!

StD, why do you feel Zoidberg is town? Run me through his play thus far.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:25 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:Was going to mention something like that ^ but now I don't have to. Woo hoo!

Also, what is this in reference to? The theory talk?
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:47 pm

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On Zoidberg:
I'm ignoring the mod vote completely, it doesn't tell me anything.

A lot of his posts for example kind of seem like pro-town making a weird attack vs. scum forcing an attack.

and are poor, but are just as likely to be sincere than insincere.

His attack on Nati isn't wrong. His explanation is bad though, I actually don't like how he repeats the phrase "mostly for info" because he could be trying to convince himself that was the reason and he's making it all up.

Other than that his posting kind of makes me feel like his wagon is a VI wagon. He also seems to be trying rather than faking it. I have been tempted to jump onto his wagon, but I think there are better places to vote at the moment.

Konowa wrote:
Save The Dragons wrote:Was going to mention something like that ^ but now I don't have to. Woo hoo!

Also, what is this in reference to? The theory talk?


No, it was in regards to . Some people seem to think that scum can't lie for an extended period of time (I would refer them to acting, I imagine it's got to be a lot like getting into character). This isn't the first time I've seen this be brought up.

Also there are pro-town reasons, personal meta reasons, and game reasons to not separate scumplay from townplay and/or perform anti-town actions as town.

I was going to say something like that, but it was probably better that ZZZX did anyway.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:53 pm

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you know. would people believe me if I said zoidberg was town?
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:26 pm

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