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↑ killerjester wrote:

RAIDERS

- Begin Day1 with 20 Raid Tokens

I'm thinking it's possible that the raiders have a token pool, and whoever the scum are have a token pool of their own.

↑ GGG wrote:

buy tier 1

Until we flip a goon we don't want to risk the Vig.

I don't like eyestott early. He seems to be fishing both in his gnome post and in his follow up.

VOTE: eyestot

What possible benefit would there be to the scum knowing if someone else is a gnome?
What post are you referring to when you say follow up?

↑ Nero Cain wrote:

↑ elusive wrote:Nero, why would or wouldn't that question be acknowledged

no mod will ever answer anything that gives away to much setup info.

↑ elusive wrote:I'm inclined to take risks so I like Tier 3

If you believe(d) that scum couldn't get gear what risk do you believe we are taking?

This is the bottom line for me. Like we'd deff use a cop/watcher and still most likely tracker tonight. A vig, we'd maybe not use right away and I'm seeing no evidence for why town would be better served with buying a vig other to say "we bought a vig!"

Nero, start with post #30 of mine. I'm not sure. I feel like it would be too sad tbh for town to waste their funds to supply a scum. We only really have 2 strong chances to purchase from each tier and after that we are at about 0 and have to wait at least 2+ days. It just feels wrong but I'm not 100% sure of what is or isn't possible with this mechanic.

Then, while the obvious allure of vigilante there's also a 50% chance at Jailer which as already stated is also a good role. Jailer can function as doctor\protector and\or roleblocker. Jail a scummy person and see if there is no NK. Jail a person who they think is a power role or who has been outed as a town power role and viola doctor abilities. I just like Tier 3 the most.

eystott, there is a possible benefit for example if all races have the same racial ability. Since race itself doesn't determine alignment, a scum that was gnome or another race would know that gnome has the ability, for example, to "steal a vote" every certain number of days which may help them determine who to kill if they know everyone's races. At least that is what I thought in reaction to that discussion.

We really need more votes for tier 3. The vig will carry us.

It's a 50/50 chance, Rampage. What would you do with jailer if that's what you got?

@elusive: I see what you mean. thing is, I really don't think my ability is that useful. Any other gnomes will probably agree with me (still not asking them to reveal) on this.

↑ elusive wrote:It's a 50/50 chance, Rampage. What would you do with jailer if that's what you got?

It's still better than tracker. Prevent a kill AND find a scum.

Oh and eyestott are you a Sylar fan or also a Zachary Quinto fan?

↑ elusive wrote:Oh and eyestott are you a Sylar fan or also a Zachary Quinto fan?

Yes.

Idk. I like Tier 3.
Go big or go erp in Goldshire.

↑ eyestott wrote:

↑ GGG wrote:

buy tier 1

Until we flip a goon we don't want to risk the Vig.

I don't like eyestott early. He seems to be fishing both in his gnome post and in his follow up.

VOTE: eyestot

What possible benefit would there be to the scum knowing if someone else is a gnome?
What post are you referring to when you say follow up?

100

Each race likely has some attributes by identifying town attributes you determine who to kill first.

Okay, that's a possibility from a scum mindset.
However, my racial ability is pretty much useless. So, if I'm scum, asking that will just make me less likely to kill any gnomes that show up.

↑ eyestott wrote:It does seem odd that none of us are racially aware.
The same should also go for class, i think.

Pfirst sentence was a joke. In my previous post, I had just said people shouldn't out their race.
My second sentence was referring to that. As in, people shouldn't reveal their class.

↑ eyestott wrote:
What possible benefit would there be to the scum knowing if someone else is a gnome?

We already went over that.

↑ elusive wrote:1. Are the roles continuous or one-shot? For example, can vigilante make a kill each night (or day?) Can jailer or cop or doctor use their ability each night? 2. Any other mechanics involved once a person rolls the role with the votes that may be important?

↑ eyestott wrote:Lead Developer: If there were a 3P of some kind, would we get 2 tokens or 4 tokens for their lynch?

↑ ika wrote:

↑ elusive wrote:1. Are the roles continuous or one-shot? For example, can vigilante make a kill each night (or day?) Can jailer or cop or doctor use their ability each night? 2. Any other mechanics involved once a person rolls the role with the votes that may be important?

1) I believe his intended purpose is to have infinite shot.

2) Any thing that you need to be aware of is here

↑ eyestott wrote:Lead Developer: If there were a 3P of some kind, would we get 2 tokens or 4 tokens for their lynch?

Depends

~Head Tester

what does it depend on? Eg. would a survivor give 2 tokens or 4?

↑ eyestott wrote:

↑ ika wrote:

↑ elusive wrote:1. Are the roles continuous or one-shot? For example, can vigilante make a kill each night (or day?) Can jailer or cop or doctor use their ability each night? 2. Any other mechanics involved once a person rolls the role with the votes that may be important?

1) I believe his intended purpose is to have infinite shot.

2) Any thing that you need to be aware of is here

↑ eyestott wrote:Lead Developer: If there were a 3P of some kind, would we get 2 tokens or 4 tokens for their lynch?

Depends

~Head Tester

what does it depend on? Eg. would a survivor give 2 tokens or 4?

I'm assuming that it depends on how malignant said 3P is.

↑ eyestott wrote:

↑ ika wrote:

↑ elusive wrote:1. Are the roles continuous or one-shot? For example, can vigilante make a kill each night (or day?) Can jailer or cop or doctor use their ability each night? 2. Any other mechanics involved once a person rolls the role with the votes that may be important?

1) I believe his intended purpose is to have infinite shot.

2) Any thing that you need to be aware of is here

↑ eyestott wrote:Lead Developer: If there were a 3P of some kind, would we get 2 tokens or 4 tokens for their lynch?

Depends

~Head Tester

what does it depend on? Eg. would a survivor give 2 tokens or 4?

Wait, i think i need to bold this.

↑ eyestott wrote:what does it depend on?

INFINITE SHOT VIG?
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/drool

The gear is permement..so once it is equipt the person will have it all game
Saying that having an investigator role early in the game is the most beneficial to the town
Tier 1 and 2 are the most beneficial for us at this point.... Not quite understanding why townies would be voting tier three

Eyetott comment about his racial ability being useless really makes me think he/she is town

I think those wanting vig shot are tunnel-visioned on the best case scenario... it landing on a player equipped to use it.

But then, what if it doesn't? I can think of a couple people (myself included) that I wouldn't want to have the vig shot, especially in the early game.

It's a double-edged sword, but it seems some folks only want to look at possible benefits without considering the drawbacks of a bad vig.

It's not like the vig can out themselves and ask for advice & protection... there's no doctor!

Regardless of whether we buy T1 or T3, T2 should be tomorrow's vote. If we luck out and land a doctor, our first PR can out themselves for conf town & ask for protection. Though how we'd know without exposing the doc, I'm fuzzy on. =/

All of the tier two abilities can prevent their target being nightkilled.
Trouble is, how do we knew Theyre confirmed town?

Ok, sorry it took me awhile to get caught up. I agree with a tier 1 vote.