↑Mainez wrote:i said what on earth is dark coalition because i didn't see it anywhere in the intro or what not and based on what i read here, it appears to be the name of the scum team, no?
It's short for "Oh my god... You suck". When someone votes someone since someone voted them.
How was that OMGUS though? It has a very clear reason as to why he voted him that isn't OMGUS.
lufan wrote:Easy, Just jingle is scummy IMO.
Are you ignoring my question to actually explain that read because you didn't see it or because you don't know how to actually answer it and hope the question just goes away?
@MMWW - I think Jingle is somewhat likely town in large part because the entire wagon are scum reads. The "scumslip" thing is I am arguing is a null tell, because most of the time its just someone having said something very oddly.
↑hi im Yakko wrote:VOTE: MMWW lot of dissonance with the heads they seem a bit uncoordinated. But the vote on jingle and none of them moved it? That kind of harmony between them does not smell of roses. They are united in the goal of lynching jingle yet (I can only discern two) the three of them have yet to offer a read on him besides the iirc "ew omgus". Of course jingle disappearing makes me paranoid.
This is funny since I'm the only one who've posted except for the confirmation post.
(If others starts to show up, I'll start signing as "1")
↑Mainez wrote:i said what on earth is dark coalition because i didn't see it anywhere in the intro or what not and based on what i read here, it appears to be the name of the scum team, no?
It's short for "Oh my god... You suck". When someone votes someone since someone voted them.
How was that OMGUS though? It has a very clear reason as to why he voted him that isn't OMGUS.
lufan wrote:Easy, Just jingle is scummy IMO.
Are you ignoring my question to actually explain that read because you didn't see it or because you don't know how to actually answer it and hope the question just goes away?
@MMWW - I think Jingle is somewhat likely town in large part because the entire wagon are scum reads. The "scumslip" thing is I am arguing is a null tell, because most of the time its just someone having said something very oddly.
Vote lufan
That may make the questions harder to ignore.
Yeah, I'm bad at explaining why. I'm not sure how it's OMGUS, but, I know what it means.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:40 am
by Heartless
breaking news: rip... might not be town
more at 11
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:42 am
by Heartless
*same goes for d3x
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:04 am
by RIP
Might not*
U are too sure Huh?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:42 am
by d3x
UnVote
Are you kidding me? We have someone at L-1 without multiple people even posting?
I'll get to the rest of everything after feeding the kid lunch.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:06 am
by Kthxbye
I put this game on the back burner for a bit and I'm sorry. I will get to this game soon. Sorry.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:25 am
by d3x
↑Jingle wrote:I don't think anti would make that kind of assumption.
What kind of assumption?
RIP's posting feels really contrived to me. I also don't like Lufan's limp onto the Wagon.
Indeed, and attacking read certainty ("U are too sure") instead of read validity is a response I'd expect from scum more often than town.
There's a lot of surface-level thinking going on in your posts when there's evidence for more potential than that. You obviously have forum mafia experience, as shown by Post 35 where you're apparently familiar with the customs and general meta style of other sites, (nota bene: site
s
, plural). So you're not a complete newbie at this. Yet we still see stuff like:
*
Post 34: The knee jerk reaction vote by itself is null, but it doesn't hold up to more than approximately five seconds of reflection. Rainbowdash had already explained why she thought a mass claim
might
be a good idea with the possible breakability of the set-up. From a town perspective, the vote only makes sense in a rigid, dogmatic, "burn the witch" kind of way which isn't supported by the accompanying reasoning ("We are not mass claiming, how it's that helpful?")
nor
the fact you're willing to let go of the matter very easily.
*
The entire initial Jingle push is surface level. You demonstrated a basic understanding of the early Jingle "scumslip" in Post 37 but failed to note and follow through on key details such as the part about Antihero being the one to mention the Dark Coalition first. You're also not thinking about the win condition dimension which was being hammered on pretty hard at the time.
*
Post 68: The "pressure vote" that leads to a dead end. mainz has done all of jack squat since you voted her and yet you happily skip along off that vote without engaging her in any meaningful way; this goes against the point of a pressure vote. Being "opportunistic" also doesn't really mesh with the scumread on Jingle.
↑Heartless wrote:jingle now that i'm about 65% sure you didn't get a good guy role PM
My estimate is closer to 85%.
This:
kiwieagle wrote:
Also because some people have asked.
Standard wincons.
You win when all threats to [Your Alignment] are eliminated and at least one of the [Your Alignment] is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
↑Rainbowdash wrote:Heartless attack is comical. Apparently Jingle for a scum PM that was an antagonist so he tries to invert flavor which he would at that point know is going to be proven wrong? Seems like an odd conclusion for scum to come to. I could see TOWN who got an antagonist PM come to that conclusion though.
It was based on a bad assumption.
Antihero
knew the name of the scum team ("Dark Coalition") because it was named in our ability (there's an investigative dimension to our role). He left
me
with the impression that he knew it because it was in the town win condition; this is what Antihero told me when I was reading through the thread and before I even looked at the role PM. I took his word for it and thought, "Jingle didn't know that
town
knew about the scum team being named the Dark Coalition. Town would know already know about the Dark Coalition because it's right there in the win condition. Therefore, Jingle didn't get a town role PM and he's accidentally exposed because kiwieagle didn't post a sample town VT role PM, as is the standard practice."
I treated it like a scum slip and, for different reasons, it still could be but there's other plausible alternatives.
↑Heartless wrote:He was actually at L-1; I counted six votes.
The answer to your question should be pretty obvious. Quickhammers and such, yada yada yada...
↑Heartless wrote:He was actually at L-1; I counted six votes.
The answer to your question should be pretty obvious. Quickhammers and such, yada yada yada...
So what's wrong with quickhammering someone who scumslipped? You've drove him to the moment of him being lynched. Why back out now?
It's not a foolproof scumslip and we don't do 4 page quicklynches. That's not how things work around here.
↑My Haircut Went Wrong wrote:I don't think he's town.
His push on jingle earlier was real strong until jingle pulled off some bullshit about him thinking of him being lynched when heartless started to pull out. The strong stance suddenly dropping from a WIFOM look real wrong to me and makes me think if those were some pre-planned bullshit.
You can't distinguish between the hydra heads?
↑Heartless wrote:Is OMGUS a scum tell where you come from, Meds?
↑My Haircut Went Wrong wrote:You sure sounded a lot more confident back there for a non-foolproof scumslip there.
My Meds Went Wrong wrote:I don't know why this matters.
It matters because Antihero's the one who's voting and thinks it's a scumslip and I'm TTH and I don't.
Hi! ^_^/~
↑Heartless wrote:*cue the bitching about hydra dissonance*
↑Heartless wrote:Anyway! Since I run this hydra: VOTE: lufan131
So it was all you (TTH) who had a very strong conviction on that scumslipped and backed out.
So why is me not unable to discern hydra heads matter again?
↑Mainez wrote:i said what on earth is dark coalition because i didn't see it anywhere in the intro or what not and based on what i read here, it appears to be the name of the scum team, no?
It's short for "Oh my god... You suck". When someone votes someone since someone voted them.
How was that OMGUS though? It has a very clear reason as to why he voted him that isn't OMGUS.
lufan wrote:Easy, Just jingle is scummy IMO.
Are you ignoring my question to actually explain that read because you didn't see it or because you don't know how to actually answer it and hope the question just goes away?
@MMWW - I think Jingle is somewhat likely town in large part because the entire wagon are scum reads. The "scumslip" thing is I am arguing is a null tell, because most of the time its just someone having said something very oddly.
↑hi im Yakko wrote:VOTE: MMWW lot of dissonance with the heads they seem a bit uncoordinated. But the vote on jingle and none of them moved it? That kind of harmony between them does not smell of roses. They are united in the goal of lynching jingle yet (I can only discern two) the three of them have yet to offer a read on him besides the iirc "ew omgus". Of course jingle disappearing makes me paranoid.
This is funny since I'm the only one who've posted except for the confirmation post.
(If others starts to show up, I'll start signing as "1")
Then you read as very confused.
I'm pretty sure I've been really clear with my reads. I even named them in one of my posts.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:14 pm
by Heartless
↑My Haircut Went Wrong wrote:So it was all you (TTH) who had a very strong conviction on that scumslipped and backed out.
So why is me not unable to discern hydra heads matter again?
I had strong conviction based on Anti's misinformation, which I then corrected.
It matters because you're constructing this narrative that I had a strong scum read on Jingle that I suddenly pulled away from when he got to L-1. That's not true.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:18 pm
by Heartless
↑My Haircut Went Wrong wrote:I don't think he's town.
His push on jingle earlier was real strong until jingle pulled off some bullshit about him thinking of him being lynched when heartless started to pull out. The strong stance suddenly dropping from a WIFOM look real wrong to me and makes me think if those were some pre-planned bullshit.
Correction: the narrative is that I was scum reading him until he offered his explanation. That's not true either.
↑My Haircut Went Wrong wrote:So it was all you (TTH) who had a very strong conviction on that scumslipped and backed out.
So why is me not unable to discern hydra heads matter again?
I had strong conviction based on Anti's misinformation, which I then corrected.
It matters because you're constructing this narrative that I had a strong scum read on Jingle that I suddenly pulled away from when he got to L-1. That's not true.
Upon rereading, I realized that I mistook your unvote post as the other unvote post.
Point conceded.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:44 pm
by RIP
Heartless I never said I was a newb.
I'm new in this site and pretty dissapointed at how level one players are here. It could be culture clash I guess but my god you guys are vain.
I don't know how u think I'm scum.
I voted and then moved off and then went back. I don't know his role but I'm hoping is scum.
@meds went wrong just acts like I'm bussing my partner, so he thinks we are both scum? Lol. I never buss that's for fucking losers which im sure is like a usual thing here.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:45 pm
by RIP
I think meds is mad I'm voting the person he is voting... Does that makes senses?
this must be you faking being a newb.
No way in hell a person experienced with mafia games not know what OMGUS means.
Also, I love how you try to discredit my read on you by strawmanning me and cast a self meta WIFOM while trying to cast suspucion on me the very next post by twisting what I've done.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:45 pm
by Elbirn
↑RIP wrote:Heartless I never said I was a newb.
I'm new in this site and pretty dissapointed at how level one players are here. It could be culture clash I guess but my god you guys are vain.
I don't know how u think I'm scum.
I voted and then moved off and then went back. I don't know his role but I'm hoping is scum.
@meds went wrong just acts like I'm bussing my partner, so he thinks we are both scum? Lol. I never buss that's for fucking losers which im sure is like a usual thing here.
VOTE: RIP
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:58 pm
by My Haircut Went Wrong
ayyy
wat up bro
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:02 pm
by My Haircut Went Wrong
wtf why is this already 6 pages long
filled with long posts
im not reading this shit lel
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:16 pm
by My Haircut Went Wrong
↑My Haircut Went Wrong wrote:wtf why is this already 6 pages long
filled with long posts
im not reading this shit lel
this must be you faking being a newb.
No way in hell a person experienced with mafia games not know what OMGUS means.
Also, I love how you try to discredit my read on you by strawmanning me and cast a self meta WIFOM while trying to cast suspucion on me the very next post by twisting what I've done.
I seen omgus a lot in this forum. I finally asked.
I play werewolf and we don't use same things u do here.
Ex we call players wolfy and not scummy. I'm getting used to it
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:23 pm
by RIP
So elbin am I bussing or u are voting a villager? Or town I mean
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:25 pm
by RIP
U guys don't keep track of stats here right? So far I been mislynched each game. Funny thing is my reads were scary good each time.
I put fear in wolf heart. I own you bitches
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:26 pm
by RIP
So it's normal for u guys to throw votes around and no explanation?
This is pro scum btw
.
