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↑ Lowercase wrote:
Yuriko's insistence on attacking Cargo's 'RV' thing is comically missing the point, which is a common scum tactic.
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This. Yuriko is putting all of his emphasis on a single sentence. I'm restating the whole "RV isn't an RV guys" thing because I for some reason need to reiterate that a single sentence should not have this much weight on the game. In fact, I changed the vote and added the words in parenthesis in Preview editing, after looking at the game a bit more. There should not be over 10 posts talking about this. This should be the last post or one of the last posts debating this issue.

Welcome Lowercase and Dwlee! (BTW D, should I pronounce your name Dwa-Lee or D-W-Lee? Not relevant to the game, just wondering.)

↑ Lowercase wrote:
Draynth sort of does the same thing as yuriko though. It's weird that even though cargo's vote is actually opportunistic and arguably scummy, both of the retaliatory votes on him included such a skeevy point.

I felt fine about doing it because it wasn't the key point of my arguement in the slightest. I had other points, which speak for themselves. I can see your point about Yuriko though.

↑ Lowercase wrote:
Nothing Honest has posted so far comes off as scummy. The naked vote was not opportunistic and the reason behind it was sort of obvious, so it wasn't all that bad. His posts are a little lazy but they don't strike me as bad in any of the ways I'm looking for at this juncture. Still, if he doesn't start posting more, I don't want to see him anywhere near lylo.

This^

↑ necargoface wrote:

↑ Lowercase wrote:
Yuriko's insistence on attacking Cargo's 'RV' thing is comically missing the point, which is a common scum tactic.
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This. Yuriko is putting all of his emphasis on a single sentence. I'm restating the whole "RV isn't an RV guys" thing because I for some reason need to reiterate that a single sentence should not have this much weight on the game. In fact, I changed the vote and added the words in parenthesis in Preview editing, after looking at the game a bit more.

There should not be over 10 posts talking about this. This should be the last post or one of the last posts debating this issue.

The bolded sentence bugs me a bit, It could just be me being nitpicky though. It bugs me because that isn't for you to decide. People find what they wanna find in a post, everyone interprets it differently and you're not allowed to just go 'That doesn't count, don't talk about it'. I can understand why you have done so, but it just seems odd to me.

↑ YurikoJasmine wrote:

If Yuriko and Necargo are both Mafia then we should lynch Necargo first anyway.

What suggested we are mafia together instead of town v mafia or town v town and why should we lynch necargoface first if we were mafia together?

Perhaps the context was unclear. This is mostly a response to BBT about 70 (BBT's point in 102). To me, it sounded like Town talking to Unknown, rather than Mafia talking to Town. The sentence quoted here is me acknowledging that it could perhaps be Mafia talking to Mafia--but I'd be more confident that Necargo would be Mafia, so that's the lynch that should happen first.

↑ Draynth wrote:I understand that you have these two reads in ascending order of suspicion (Ie, Honest is scummier), but isn't it contradictory to have them both as scum reads for D1? Do you think it's likely that they would bus each other on D1 if they were scum together?

You are correct that these two reads are largely mutually exclusive. If we were to lynch right this second, I'd like to lynch one of those two slots, but I'd want to see the flip and revise my read of the second before taking any further action.

↑ Dwlee99 wrote:Do people on mafia scum not post as much? I'm used to constant talk on forums I normally play mafia on..

We've given you five pages to read, but we only have two posts of yours, so it seems a bit unfair for you to criticize our posting frequency. My usually philosophy is that activity is created by sharing thoughts and asking questions. Which player(s) seem suspicious to you on the basis of the posting so far?

↑ Dwlee99 wrote:Anyway though, based on what I've read yuriko seems a bit suspicious to me because they haven't posted anything of much use. Other than that necargo is stating RVs when they're not that as his reasons later stated.

Never mind, apparently I can't even read two posts.

Anyway, I still feel as though you might have some more detailed thoughts to share with us.

To my reads in 112 I would add that I liked Lowercase's entrance and didn't get much from DWLee's. Comments?

↑ necargoface wrote:
1.It had no context, was a naked vote, and had no explanation at the time, which is scummy, at least to me.

OK, so you have stated the same reason in 3 different ways; it was a naked vote. Just like all of these votes;


Can you explain why you found Honest's vote scummier than all of these others given the reasons you presented?

↑ YurikoJasmine wrote:The two of us referred to the two people that hadn't post/ were inactive.

I'm sorry, can you clarify which two people you are talking about?

↑ Dierfire wrote:

Yuriko

appears to be working through reads. I thought that the questions directed at Zero in 21 and 29 were good. I have very complex feelings about 70: I disagree with its content, and continue to find Necargo suspicious. I disagree with BBT that the post itself was suspicious, however, especially because I cannot easily see the rationale for a Mafia player to say this of a Town player. If Yuriko and Necargo are both Mafia then we should lynch Necargo first anyway.

Look at the wording of Yuri's post, it's a bunch of buzzwords (mindset, motivation, content) thrown together; IMO, the sentence is barely coherent. The rationale for Yuri to say that is to give herself a reason to jump off a wagon that wasn't going anywhere at that time. For context;

↑ YurikoJasmine wrote:I disagree with the content/ mindset towards RV in 68 but it looks pretty town motivated to me

↑ Dwlee99 wrote:
Anyway though, based on what I've read yuriko seems a bit suspicious to me because they haven't posted anything of much use.

Can you vote Yuri then?

↑ Dierfire wrote:

@BBT

To my reads in 112 I would add that I liked Lowercase's entrance and didn't get much from DWLee's. Comments?

I would agree with this.

I'm bad at English; it doesn't make me scum. If you have worries you can always ask me to clarify on specific points. But your question will have to be pretty specific for me to understand what exactly you are asking about

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ YurikoJasmine wrote:The two of us referred to the two people that hadn't post/ were inactive.

I'm sorry, can you clarify which two people you are talking about?

I understand English is not your first language Yuri, that is not my problem with your post though. It's the language you chose to use.

Can you answer the above with specific player names please?

I find Honest's vote more off-putting than the votes BBT listed because ALL of those were blatantly RV's. Honest's vote was not clearly an RV and was at a time where RV's are becoming more uncommon. Without explanation, I assumed it was not an RV (correctly), which made it even more unsettling.

There is absolutely no way you could determine that Honest's vote was not RVS.

^. It was his first post, and out of the blue. Why did you assume it was an RV?

Btw guys, I'll be V/LA from tomorrow until Monday, apologies for such short notice. I actually forgot I was going to be away.
I should be able to post at least once a day, I'll try to do it more often where possible.

Ok, I think I've got an idea of where I want the game to go. First off, I think we should lynch a lurker; this game is to slow to justify any day one decisions that would slow it down further. I'm thinking either dwlee or ZS. Reasons are a little sparse due to the low post count but basically:

Lee- Previous slot holder votes ZS to L-1 and bounces. New slot holder comes in, complains about low site posting rate and then doesn't post anymore.

ZS- he was wagoned early on; he responded to the pressure somewhat, then after the wagon dissolved he just vanished. Did he ever finish that reread?

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ YurikoJasmine wrote:The two of us referred to the two people that hadn't post/ were inactive.

I'm sorry, can you clarify which two people you are talking about?

I understand English is not your first language Yuri, that is not my problem with your post though. It's the language you chose to use.

Can you answer the above with specific player names please?

how is my choice of words not related to my language skills? do you think I would deliberately choose (scmmily) "generic" words to arouse attention?

Marklin and Axwell, who haven't posted all along. I didn't want to end d1 without everyone at least saying something. Why choose to ask this now?

I barely realized that mansonP has already been replaced. his replacement came in, drop a word and then going away. he's cherry-picking people to comment on, saying i'm not of use and conveniently commented on necargo's "RV" which was already much discussed, while not adding anything to it. Even worse, he's gone. As if I would need more reasons to vote him.



p.s. it's really ironic that he complained about people not posting while he himself has disappeared

↑ YurikoJasmine wrote:I barely realized that mansonP has already been replaced. his replacement came in, drop a word and then going away. he's cherry-picking people to comment on, saying i'm not of use and conveniently commented on necargo's "RV" which was already much discussed, while not adding anything to it. Even worse, he's gone. As if I would need more reasons to vote him.

vote: dwlee

p.s. it's really ironic that he complained about people not posting while he himself has disappeared

I just realized the thread existed. Completely forgot I was playing, sorry.

And my name is DW Lee but it's pronounced Dwee Lee, forgot who asked it.

And what did you expect me to add on to necargo's "RV"? I thought it was interesting and decided I would mention it, I'm not that good at reads so I just point out everything I see. You just OMGUS'ing me is interesting, I might add.

Btw, I didn't vote zerosummer, so idk why it's there on the vote count..

↑ Dierfire wrote:Anyway, I still feel as though you might have some more detailed thoughts to share with us.

(Sorry about mutliple posts)

Scum reads:

Necargo (That rv thing just bugs me, idk why)
Yuriko (Doesn't make much contribution and then OMGUS'd me)

Town Reads:

Dier (Active meaningful discussion)
BlueBlooded (Same thing)

I'm not too good at town reads, but those two people seem townie to me. Don't know what to look for in town reads, other than what I found.

↑ Dwlee99 wrote:Btw, I didn't vote zerosummer, so idk why it's there on the vote count..

You replaced a player who had cast a vote, and the replacement does not cause the vote to reset. If you're not intending to vote for Zero then you should remove the vote, and preferably change it to another player that you find suspicious.

Wtf did he just called my vote OMGUS why is there not more votes on him