Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:27 pm
Where? Can you quote it, please?
Where? Can you quote it, please?
So I would have to have played in a game with an IC to understand what an IC is and how it is revealed?In post 123, Chip Butty wrote:Too bad. That would have bolstered your claim that you knew how Innocent Child works, including the crucial Modconf bit.
Oh yeah, it is in the wiki, for sure. But, see, I missed it there (didn't get around to reading the wiki pre-game, as the setup seemed to be explained in the modnotes), so I have no trouble believing others missed it too. In fact, the whole discussion over that aspect of the setup just goes to show that several people didn't pick up on it.In post 127, Dunnstral wrote:Talking about the wiki which is linked to in the starting post and from the signups
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... k_the_Deck
Look under modifications (right at the top)
The other in-thread info was only edited in after the game started so he couldn't have used that
Please don't misrep me. I didn't say that. I said that if you HAD played in such a game, it would have been evidence that you understood the Innocent Child role. But that evidence is lacking.In post 126, ploben wrote:So I would have to have played in a game with an IC to understand what an IC is and how it is revealed?In post 123, Chip Butty wrote:Too bad. That would have bolstered your claim that you knew how Innocent Child works, including the crucial Modconf bit.
Misrep you?In post 130, Chip Butty wrote:Please don't misrep me. I didn't say that. I said that if you HAD played in such a game, it would have been evidence that you understood the Innocent Child role. But that evidence is lacking.In post 126, ploben wrote:So I would have to have played in a game with an IC to understand what an IC is and how it is revealed?In post 123, Chip Butty wrote:Too bad. That would have bolstered your claim that you knew how Innocent Child works, including the crucial Modconf bit.
Huh??? Are you beoing deliberately obtuse, in order to muddy the waters?In post 129, Dunnstral wrote:You think mafia fakeclaiming ic didn't look to see that there was an ic in the setup?
It doesn't add up
Yes, you misrepped me. I said the bit in green, and you twisted it into the bit in red.In post 131, ploben wrote:Misrep you?In post 130, Chip Butty wrote:Please don't misrep me. I didn't say that. I said that if you HAD played in such a game, it would have been evidence that you understood the Innocent Child role. But that evidence is lacking.In post 126, ploben wrote:In post 123, Chip Butty wrote:Too bad. That would have bolstered your claim that you knew how Innocent Child works, including the crucial Modconf bit.So I would have to have played in a game with an IC to understand what an IC is and how it is revealed?
Try again.
Dunnstral I think you need to rethink your town read on Chip.
In post 21, Chip Butty wrote:That's supposed to be Mod-confirmed, and I don't see the Mod confirming it yet. Until he does...In post 18, ploben wrote:Also I'm confirmed (not so) Innocent (mind like a) Child.
UNVOTE: VOTE: ploben
In post 22, ploben wrote:Mod must be a little backed up, he'll post it soon.
I see you original IC comment potentially being a joke, but you response to chip butty is totally not a joke. You post a joke, someone takes it as a serious post, you reply "lol, I was joking". When you don't do that, it makes your whole statement suspect.In post 117, ploben wrote:My claim was clearly a joke
Dude I explained the mod setup stuff wasn't there before today you can even see the editIn post 132, Chip Butty wrote:Huh??? Are you beoing deliberately obtuse, in order to muddy the waters?
Faking a claim- not scummy at all.In post 137, Dunnstral wrote:finding someone who is just plain scummy (like karnos)
Misrep? That's not why I find you scummy and I skipped rvs to place a serious vote tooIn post 138, karnos wrote:Skipping over RVS and going right to a serious vote- just plain scummy.
Is that really your logic? Or is it something else I did that made me scummy, other than skipping directly over my usual semi-random vote?
Why are you clearing ploben? Just because you read him as town, that doesn't really mean anything.In post 140, Dunnstral wrote:Like right there even is a scum reaction because he doesn't try to find mafia or explain that I'm wrong, he's just following along with the useless ic discussion and now switches to subtle doubt casting on me without really "committing" to a read
By the way this comes off as unnecessarily defensive as I was the only one even pushing you (duppin's rvs vote doesn't count)In post 75, karnos wrote:Whatever. I think I go through this at the start of every game. I don't play to the established meta, so I must be scum. Then after a half dozen pages of random BS, a few people think I sound more town. Then some more back and forth, and someone insists they were right all along and I'm scum. In the end, I end up wasting a lot of time making defensive posts instead of actually scum hunting in a more useful way.In post 68, Dunnstral wrote: Still think karnos is a good vote. Making a big deal out of nothing (the claim) mixed in with the sheeping and the way he made sure to vote ranger first all feels incredibly scummy to me and I can't believe I'm the only one who's going to vote this
If you think I am scum because I am willing to reveal my RVS vote as the empty charade it is, fine. Go ahead, lynch a townie because he isn't playing the same way you like to play. In the meantime I'm going to look for behavior that actually is scummy, and actually has a scum motivation behind it, and vote appropriately. For now, that involves voting on proben.
This looks like scum pushing on townIn post 97, karnos wrote:Based on the theory thatIn post 88, Dunnstral wrote: Thought you were arguing that he was doing it as scum to be believable?plobenmight have mistakenly thought the IC role was only revealed by mod when the player chooses to reveal...
As scum, serves two purposes:
1- with less observant townies, you might actually succeed and fake as IC, and avoid suspicion for awhile
2- could get the real town IC to instantly confirm as a counter claim, before you come back with "oh it was just a prank bro"
As town, it serves what purpose exactly? I can't think of one, sorry. It's just throwing misinformation around. It can't confuse scum, they already know who is town, but it could confuse fellow town. It's simply playing against your win condition as town.