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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:43 pm

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Kokichi Oma wrote:Yes, strange doesn't mean scum or not. I only scumread one person so far. Strange is a way to sort people, which I'm trying to do.
In post 120, Kokichi Oma wrote:Impede/Lapsa/Bory are all acting strange.
What is the point of this list then?
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:48 pm

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In post 121, Shinobi wrote:People are either scummy or not scummy.
I agree and disagree. Like I think most players have a tendency to look at things in kinda black and white-this is scummy/not scummy but there's still "scummy" play that is just bad play.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 126, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 121, Shinobi wrote:People are either scummy or not scummy.
I agree and disagree. Like I think most players have a tendency to look at things in kinda black and white-this is scummy/not scummy but there's still "scummy" play that is just bad play.
Sure, but you don't gum up the thread with thoughts like that unless you're pointing out that it's town being not-very-towny.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:52 pm

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Bory seems to have a "mind of a programmer"

I can relate to:
In post 112, Bory wrote:
In post 111, Sunlit Diamond wrote:
I'm confused about why you responded to that question. It was clearly directed at Lapsa, about you. Can you explain?
I can't read.
that's not alignment indicative though.
just something to consider when reading him
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:11 pm

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In post 125, Shinobi wrote:
Kokichi Oma wrote:Yes, strange doesn't mean scum or not. I only scumread one person so far. Strange is a way to sort people, which I'm trying to do.
In post 120, Kokichi Oma wrote:Impede/Lapsa/Bory are all acting strange.
What is the point of this list then?
Because the world isn't black or white.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:24 pm

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In post 129, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 125, Shinobi wrote:
Kokichi Oma wrote:Yes, strange doesn't mean scum or not. I only scumread one person so far. Strange is a way to sort people, which I'm trying to do.
In post 120, Kokichi Oma wrote:Impede/Lapsa/Bory are all acting strange.
What is the point of this list then?
Because the world isn't black or white.
You say 'strange' is not scumreading, but by lumping Impede and Bory in with Lapsa, whom you have scumread, you're drawing a not so subtle line of comparison between them. The world not being black and white isn't a good answer to inquiry about this; can you go into more detail about WHY that list of people is acting 'strange', and what it means for your reads list over all?
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:36 pm

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I've already explained what makes them all strange. It's not that much to read the last 2 or so pages. And I explained why I scumread Lapsa. All 3 are strange. 1 I scumread hard.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:17 pm

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In post 129, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 125, Shinobi wrote:
Kokichi Oma wrote:Yes, strange doesn't mean scum or not. I only scumread one person so far. Strange is a way to sort people, which I'm trying to do.
In post 120, Kokichi Oma wrote:Impede/Lapsa/Bory are all acting strange.
What is the point of this list then?
Because the world isn't black or white.
This is not an answer.
What does strange mean? If it's just an empty word then why are you using it?

I have no idea why I have to press this hard for someone's opinion on people they're already talking about.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:42 pm

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Use a dictionary, I've already explained what was strange.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:44 pm

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I feel like you are deliberately ignoring what we're asking.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:46 pm

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I've already explained what was strange about them. Look at the last page
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:49 pm

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All I see you is saying that you think they're acting strange. What does 'strange' mean, if it doesn't mean a scum read? It looks a lot like a way to fence sit, to me.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:58 pm

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I'm starting to think you're hopeless.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:58 pm

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I think it's strange you can't determine what strange means.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:59 pm

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I don't think the things that you're saying are anywhere near as clear or helpful as you think they are.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:02 pm

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In post 91, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 77, Bory wrote:
In post 27, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 9, Lapsa wrote:VOTE: Kokichi Oma
VOTE: Lapsa
Just to make it clear. Kokichi, you think that Lapsa is scum and your argument is, that when sameone claimed scum he voted, 2 posts after it, against the claim whisout reasoning?
I think he's scum because of the way he went about it
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In post 79, Lapsa wrote:
@Bory
I feel confident in my ability to defend myself if need be
Then why haven't you said anything to me?
In post 93, Kokichi Oma wrote:Also why did you point that out to just Bory? That's a bit weird.
In post 95, Kokichi Oma wrote:North, don't you find it weird that Lapsa pointed that out to just Bora?
In post 106, Kokichi Oma wrote:Lapsa, why did you @ only Bora and not the other people who were in the discussion of semi defending you?
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:03 pm

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Yeah. I understand you scumread Lapsa. That doesn't explain what you're trying to do with Impede and Bory.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:05 pm

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In post 79, Lapsa wrote:
@Bory
I feel confident in my ability to defend myself if need be
In post 54, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 49, Impede wrote:
In post 46, Kokichi Oma wrote:I just wanted to see who would have a weird reaction, and I think I found the person.
Make up your mind. I wasn't the one who suggested a PL on you page 1.

I still don't know what you were hoping to achieve. I can't see any response to that, organic or fabricated, being AI... especially because anyone in their right mind already suspects that you only posted it to stir the pot, so any reactions you get are WIFOM.
This post is a bit weird, cause I wasn't talking about you. But, the way you answered it is weird for someone you are suspicious of.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:45 pm

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i sympathize with kokichi here becuase i've been in the same position. noticing things that are strange isn't necessarily some attempt to avoid scumhunting, it can just as easily be town attempting to point out what they're noticing about the gamestate, even if not all of it falls immediately into town/scum.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:50 pm

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I misread your statement. "I think I found the person" could very easily have been interpreted as referring to me. Hence the "make up your mind". Also, how is my answer weird? I've since explained myself.

What's your goal here KO? I think that's what everyone is trying to understand. Your line(s) of questioning are distinctly directionless, as was your opening scumclaim. If you really want to investigate Lapsa you would be better off focusing your effort rather than chasing rabbit holes. We have enough time to evaluate potential scum that certain leans can be followed up on as we gain additional content. Fence sitting and contributing to town directionlessness is scummy behavior.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:12 pm

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In post 144, Impede wrote:If you really want to investigate Lapsa you would be better off focusing your effort rather than chasing rabbit holes.
Either you're not reading or you are just trying to fit in. Because I clearly tried to engage with him, and he has ignored me for the most part.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:17 pm

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So who wants to lynch Flavor leaf with me?
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:50 am

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Pretty sure that slot needs to be prodded/replaced.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:40 am

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In post 78, Nero Cain wrote:I think this comes from scum alot. Attacking bad or poor play to make themselves look useful but it serves no purpose in scumhunting. I like my vote.

do you not think it could be annoyed town? To me, he doesnt seem very "blendy", he is right up under your nose.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:42 am

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In post 86, northsidegal wrote:townies can make mistakes or have fault logic too.
think this is often a big problem. town often make mistakes and act "scummy". It's the players that seem really logicaql that are often scum
therre are exceptions obviously blah blah
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