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In post 51, Beefster wrote:

In post 37, InfernoBrafin wrote:

Inferno390

: Well crap. I wasn't even paying attention to what account I was on. I deserve major mod reprimanding for that.

On a more positive note, how are Brafin and I playing scummily?

VOTE: InfernoBrafin
Semi-serious vote.

IB looks awfully self-conscious.

Not buying this

Wouldn't a hydra consisting of players who are acting self-conscious be unlikely to hydra slip and in the rare event they do, not point out that they did?

In post 53, Beefster wrote:Yeah. Mathdino's pinging me too. Let's see how this progresses.

Why is he suspicious?

In post 60, Beefster wrote:

In post 54, Inferno390 wrote:

In post 51, Beefster wrote:

In post 37, InfernoBrafin wrote:

Inferno390

: Well crap. I wasn't even paying attention to what account I was on. I deserve major mod reprimanding for that.

On a more positive note, how are Brafin and I playing scummily?

VOTE: InfernoBrafin
Semi-serious vote.

IB looks awfully self-conscious.

Inferno:

What's pinging you as self-conscious? That post in particular? Or just the way Brafin and I are interacting with each other in general?

Other posts pinged me too, but it was the fact that you were already asking others why they thought you were playing scummily... on page 2.

It's hard to say if that really means much this early on, but it's a start.

Not really following.

What should've been their reaction?

In post 65, Mathdino wrote:VOTE: InfernoBrafin

this has nothing to do with your generally scummy vibes FTR

opportunistic, could've easily voted me when i basically asked them to
instead chose to wait until after paradox voted me

then assuming reasons for other people scumreading them is an actual scumtell (i think? i haven't seen this behaviour often enough to confirm this but scum is generally more self-conscious)

This vote kinda feels like how you were describing a vote IB had casted earlier.

While IB did vote for you after Paradox did, I don't see how they're taking advantage of a situation. Paradox's ISO is just politely asking all hydra accounts to make sure all players can know who is posting at all times and playfully responding to votes in RVS. No thoughts or actions taken regarding meaningful content. IB is being wagoned right now. They're also both new to the site so reputation shouldn't be a factor. So the likelihood of a serious wagon forming on you with them leading the charge should've been slim no?

In post 108, the worst wrote:ur a vry scary dragon Ico

Ohmaigod

Ok

That dino v infernodra was a head ache to read


FYI

I think the latter is just... Very green and misunderstood the term. TvT

Dino, talk to me

How likely is that vote placed out of frustration vs it being placed because of actual opportunistic behavior?

: Let's start with this: Who ever said we scumread acryon or the worst? We certainly didn't ever scumread the worst. And we both have a habit of starting strong and making some quick reads in order to attract scum. That's our playstyle-- erm, Inferno's, anyway.

Two, it feels like Math is trying REALLY hard to force RVS. Which I get, seeing as my partner is as well, so while it's "scummy" (to use mathdino's term), it doesn't strike me as a scum move.

In post 51, Beefster wrote:

In post 37, InfernoBrafin wrote:

Inferno390

: Well crap. I wasn't even paying attention to what account I was on. I deserve major mod reprimanding for that.

On a more positive note, how are Brafin and I playing scummily?

VOTE: InfernoBrafin
Semi-serious vote.

IB looks awfully self-conscious.

In post 52, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 33, Mathdino wrote:the worst is town, or at least not scum with InfBraf. Cheeky scumplay like that isn't his thing I think.

No read on the hydra, feels like they're playing in an intentionally scummy way, but whatever.

acryon is probtown until someone finds me evidence that they open scumgames like this.

VOTE: Paradox

Correct move is to always wagon this guy.

VOTE: Mathdino
I frickin' trusted you. I babysat you. But no, you decided to betray me and join the frickin' mafia. What a lowlife thing to do.

In post 53, Beefster wrote:Yeah. Mathdino's pinging me too. Let's see how this progresses.

This exchange pings me HARD.
A) When we or any player asks why someone thinks they are behaving scummy, it is a pointed question to out bad scumreads, not a "This is how I should behave" tactic. If that were the case, Inferno would have been much less self conscious a long time ago. He's asking the question in order to scumhunt.
B) The vote against Dino was made in jest as a RVS it seems, but Beef treats it as a real vote? Super sus.

In post 58, Mathdino wrote:

In post 33, Mathdino wrote:No read on the hydra, feels like they're playing in an

intentionally scummy

way, but whatever.

what about this post makes you think i'm shading you?

do you believe i'm shading your alignment, or your skill/quality as a player?

The answer to your own question is in the post you quoted.
Either you're stupid (doubtful) not paying attention (likely) or this is insanely scummy. (Occam's Razor)

Okay, now I'm seeing a trend in Mathdino. From the previously quoted post on out, he refers to us as naturally scummy, when that is never the initial wording. It looks to me like he's trying really hard to defend a really bad read.

You're acting pretty scummy right now.

Dino doesn't like RVS so why would he draw it out?

And if he was how is pushing s convo and saying I think you're being intentionally scummy continuing it?

Also I also don't really see the Shade and reason to get so self conscious. He never once said you were scum or likely to be and it is in fact general knowledge that scummy =/= scum driven

Wrong game

>>> delete that plz not sure where that came from

VOTE: Bujaber

This is a serious vote, and I think this slot should actually get lynched. It feels like he's decided to just piggy back on the hottest topic atm. Possibly to look like he's being active?

In post 141, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: Bujaber

This is a serious vote, and I think this slot should actually get lynched. It feels like he's decided to just piggy back on the hottest topic atm. Possibly to look like he's being active?

It does feel a bit like that. However, the big paragraph to me pings as town-effort. Not that quantity = town, but I feel like we'd see the effort portrayed differently if he were just trying to get credit for activity.

Erm what?

I'm sure you can interpret a lot of things I've done as scummy but how am I piggybacking? I started the wagon. I also commented on inferno v skitter earlier and gave an updated opinion based on their continuation.

Oops ignore the last bit. Wrong game.

Mmmm maybe, I guess time will tell acronyn.

Also, Buju you may have started the wagon but that doesn't mean the reasoning for them being scum is entirely yours to begin with, and it doesn't mean that you aren't trying to push a slot because of what someone else had started with them nor does it mean that you aren't using the drama to hopefully fuel the wagon