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i think that's a risk i'm willing to take though

let's see...

wisdom swaps pine or something for dram?

then i swap wisdom

wisdom goes into a rage

i lol

hopefully after that we lynch group 3?

then riku is eventually a mislynch waiting to happen...

but i'll die tomorrow probably

then fitz will prob die the next day

hm

it's somewhat liberating not giving a shit how bad i look because i can't really be lynched in this scenario barring exceptional circumstances

i guess eddie might also have a swap role and that could throw a wrench in the works

lol

DV's reads are surprisingly good!

his plan is the only one so far that actually nets a scum death (and two of them to boot!)

it's a pity wisdom is so stubborn, rofl

i even suggested it to him but he doesn't want it!

you know

wisdom is scum-reading hf right?

if he were thinking straight, he'd swap someone out of group 1 into group 2

then... i can't do anything with my role...

i'm not going to suggest this because it's suboptimal for us

but it's the ideal play for town here (even though it relies on kokichi's guilty being accurate)

(which i guess it kind of is?)

like i'm honestly surprised he hasn't realised this himself

because it just makes sense to do

if he's worried about me screwing things over, he could just do that...

but he's not going to... so uh...

ok?

there's a decent amount of irony in the fact that i'm pretending to be upset that people aren't listening to me about the possibility that kokichi and wisdom aren't both obvtown

it's hilarious, when i think about it

i just don't understand why wisdom is so fixated on group 3

like...

he thinks HF is scum... right?

and he knows there's scum in group 2... right?

and he thinks i'm scum... right?

so uh... why does he want to swap and lynch group 3? why not group 1 with someone who CANT swap out?

this just makes no sense the more i think about it

hopefully he explains this in the dead thread or post-game

i think the best opportunity town has here is listening to DV

it's a pity he's likeable but not so influential. he needs to be more pushy! but that's not his style so whatever

eddie's got a reasonable idea, he's just wrong about the scum read he wants to swap into group 2 (he thinks buj<->cakez is a good idea). it's not a bad idea per se, it's better than wisdom's (says i with full knowledge of the setup and no requirement to work anything out), it's just not optimal

dram is still 100% right on what the best play today is btw

like, everything i'm saying in thread about it, i'd probably be saying as town, too

i might do it a bit differently maybe (i'd prob just remain neutral and explain facts instead of acting upset or ragey) but i would still be arguing the exact same thing

i don't know how to feel about what's going on

like should i feel vindication that i'm right or something?

lol

anyway

i'm tossing up the options here

if wisdom swaps dram and pine

then...

1) i can swap wisdom and myself and lol at what happens as a result
2) i can swap riku and myself and lol at what happens as a result - this is potentially bad though when they both flip town and something that i need to carefully think through
3) i can swap hf and myself and lol at the bussing - but this only serves a purpose if i look town off it so i need to figure out who's reading the game in what way beforehand

man is a really scummy ability name, thanks implosion

well at least i get to type "switch with" i suppose...

I think you need to work with wisdom. Also bussing fitz wouldn't be bad if hes ok with it.

Best scenario you talk to Wisdom and say you agree to not use your swap yet if he swaps you out for riku and say you're compromising for town sake and not selfishness. He might buy that

oh, cakez finally suggested the ACTUAL second best plan

oh right cakez thinks there's a decent chance of scum in group 1, that's why

hopefully pine chimes in right about now and goes "LYNCH CAKEZ"

In post 142, Kokichi Oma wrote:I think you need to work with wisdom. Also bussing fitz wouldn't be bad if hes ok with it.

Best scenario you talk to Wisdom and say you agree to not use your swap yet if he swaps you out for riku and say you're compromising for town sake and not selfishness. He might buy that

wisdom already suggested that but he prob wont do it

Just say you're willing to not waste it if he agrees to do it. Wisdom is easily buddies if you agree with his reads

that goes against everything i've been saying about optimal play (and that's totally not something i'd suggest as town!)

but

i'll see if i can work something like that into the conversation. maybe

or you can just suggest it

It's like a three stooges episode. Wonder how it will turn out. If we all avoid the lnched group that will be hilarious.

I can't believe people think I'm scum. Ffs

to be fair, youve been posting in this PT a bit and id argue that's more likely to come from scum than town