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In post 113, Jingle wrote:I don’t intend to survive the singularity because it is existentially terrifying. Never dying? I can think of no worse fate.

Only if you outlive your peers. Immortality with all my friends sounds AWESOME.

You’re a person, so you count as a person.

Jingle might disagree though. I hear he’s super speciest against nonhumans

I wanna see some shenanigans Pine

...sigh

/confirm

mortal enemy

I think immortality is prob amazing so long as you can (1) kill yourself if you choose to and (2) you perception of consciousness is not so warped that experience becomes meaningless

like, yes, all your loved ones dying would suck. but that happens in normal life anyway, and I don't see why you wouldn't end up meeting/finding new loved ones who would give your life new impetus, even while your grief would still be v valid

True about loved ones
What is point 2 tho

The ability to kill yourself makes it functionally not immortality, though. And I’d argue that your thoughts not being warped by the ages would make it even worse. Being unnaturally immutable. :shudders:

It’s not really the death of all of my friends and loved ones that scares me, either, but the inevitable boredom.

So if you think about our subjective perception of time then when you’re 10 summer seems like it lasts for ever, and that makes sense because each summer is roughly 3 months which is like 2.5% of your whole life at that point. But if you live to see 100 then each summer feels subjectively as if it’s passing faster and faster because it’s only 0.25% of your life by that point. So with an infinitely long period for that to happen over, would your perception of things in time make them seem increasingly inconsequential in terms of lives day to day life?

And stuck onto all of that, what would happen with memory? Again, when you’re 10 you rmemver pretty well I think what happened in which summer because they were bigger events. The older you get the harder it is to distinguish concrete events from one another. Would that process be endless, and if so would it be like losing your mind?

I kinda disagree about that, because my conception of immortality is just the ability to live without the threat of an unconsented to death.

Also, why do you think it would be boring?

Repetitive experiences always are.

Also, this is immortality via singularity, so objectively the thought processes involved would be changed at an inherent level, given the whole turning into a computer conceit.

Basically, what you're arguing is the ability to choose your time of death, which is a perfectly reasonable wish.

Idk, I think that being humans we’d be able to generate endlessly meaningful and novel experiences for each other.

Oh, I missed that, I knew singularity was mentioned but I thought we were just talking immortality in general. I personally would prefer my immortality as a reversion of biological aging processes rather than via computer.

In post 48, Alisae wrote:YEAH MINI-ME
I JUST CALLED YOU OUT
WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT

im gonna win against the town, thats what

Dude the solution is low efforting

And I am gonna low effort on solving and HIGH EFFORT ON MEMES

#penguinsealofapproval

Immortality sounds dope tbh

Think of all the menial tasks one could perform!

Does one work, pay rent, buy food, etc or become a vagabond?
Do you even require sustinance? What happens to the little guys in your gastrointestinal tract if you don't eat for like, 1000 years? Like do they become immortal too or are you going to need a fecal transplant to cultivate new life so you can process what you do eventually eat?

How many years is it appropriate to nap for!? Heck, what is considered a nap at that point???

God damn, this should be its own thread!

In post 140, Aristophanes wrote:God damn, this should be its own thread!

Alright everyone, we abandon mafia and put all of our collective might behind creating a fake level of consciousness. GO!

There's different types of "immortality" iirc, with different conditions

are you all ok

Yes?

No?

Maybe?

So.

Singularity immortality would be akin to the matrix without the stupid battery rationale.

Basically, when a machine is sufficiently advanced to store the human consciousness, the human consciousness can achieve immortality by being downloaded to a machine.

Also, Cypher is like the most relatable character in that movie. Who willingly chooses to go from 1999 New York to less than 3rd world conditions?

Big words again