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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:55 am
by Ph0enix
In post 123, PenguinPower wrote:Why not? Did you not find his actions suspect?

Also, I forgot to ask earlier, but what are your thoughts on Cheeky?
I do, but he's no longer in the game, so I can't judge his replacement off of that.

She's keeping the conversation going, I respect that. Nothing's certain about alignment, though, imo.

How do we go about trying to sort alignment? For now, having as many people as possible share their first thoughts is a good start.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:58 am
by Plotinus
Official Vote Count 1.05
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Matterhorn, Pennine Alps, Italy/Switzerland




LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

EspeciallyTheLies
(3): CheekyTeeky, ArthurConyl, Gyro Zeppeli
Gyro Zeppeli
(2): PenguinPower, Farren
CheekyTeeky
(1): EspeciallyTheLies

Not Voting
(3): Ph0enix, Nomanssky101, chazary

Deadline:
(expired on 2019-12-21 08:00:00).


Mod notes:
Nomanssky101 has (expired on 2019-12-13 08:00:00) to confirm before I will start looking for a replacement.

Gyro Zeppeli is being replaced.[/area]

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:00 am
by chazary
In post 113, PenguinPower wrote:What do you think of ETL and Gyro - or the slot that was previously occupied by Gyro?
Well I don't understand the votes on ETL. They've only posted once so far and don't seem like a new player so I can't imagine thats a sign of being scum and is probably just them being afk for real life reasons.

As for Gyro I think he's been suspicious from the start but thats just bc of his awkward introduction mistaking Phoenix for someone else which just snowballed. Now that he's banned I can't say I have a good read on his position in the game bc it was kind of all over the place. Will have to reassess that slot once its filled.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:08 am
by chazary
In post 115, PenguinPower wrote: Why are you asking questions to/waiting for an explanation from an empty slot that won't be able to provide a response?
Is there a reason you're still voting for him then?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:10 am
by PenguinPower
In post 125, Ph0enix wrote:I do, but he's no longer in the game, so I can't judge his replacement off of that.
A replacement doesn't change his alignment, so if you found his actions scummy - to a point you were willing to vote pending answer - I don't understand what has changed in the interim.
In post 125, Ph0enix wrote:How do we go about trying to sort alignment? For now, having as many people as possible share their first thoughts is a good start.
So it would be town indicative to try and get as many thoughts from players as possible, right?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:14 am
by PenguinPower
In post 128, chazary wrote:
In post 115, PenguinPower wrote: Why are you asking questions to/waiting for an explanation from an empty slot that won't be able to provide a response?
Is there a reason you're still voting for him then?
Yes. A few, actually. Most of his posts are empty without followup; unlike Cheeky, I didn't like his response to having three votes; and, I like the wagon dynamics right now.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:17 am
by chazary
Fair. I guess I just wanna give his replacement a chance to defend their role. I do understand why you're sus of him tho.

Still unsure of the wagon on ETL though. What did they do? or is it for memes

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:39 am
by Ph0enix
In post 129, PenguinPower wrote: A replacement doesn't change his alignment, so if you found his actions scummy - to a point you were willing to vote pending answer - I don't understand what has changed in the interim.
I mean, given the fact that there's a scenario where he's Town even though his actions were scummy, it would be a better idea to wait for his replacement.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:40 am
by Ph0enix
In post 129, PenguinPower wrote: So it would be town indicative to try and get as many thoughts from players as possible, right?
Absolutely, but I'm not willing to make assumptions based off of that alone.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:42 am
by PenguinPower
Understandable.

p-edit

referring to not voting Gyro.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:29 am
by Farren
In post 114, Ph0enix wrote:
Farren wrote:I think Cheeky is Town. I like the poking and prodding attitude so far.
PenguinPower wrote:Agree with town for now. She can exhibit that behavior as both alignments and had me snowed in our last game together before she repped out.
To both: could you further explain why you believe Cheeky is town?
Poking and prodding around helps generate content, which is especially helpful on D1 when there's nothing else to work with. Generally when scum do it, there tends to be shade involved - or excessive amounts of pressure, depending on playstyle. I don't see signs of either of those here.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:31 am
by Farren
In post 108, Plotinus wrote:
Gyro Zeppeli has been banned for a couple weeks, so you don't have to play with him anymore. I'll find someone else for the slot.
UNVOTE: Gyro Zeppeli

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:46 am
by Farren
In post 131, chazary wrote:Fair. I guess I just wanna give his replacement a chance to defend their role. I do understand why you're sus of him tho.

Still unsure of the wagon on ETL though. What did they do? or is it for memes
Here's the relevant parts:

Spoiler: No memes here, just lots of quotes
In post 75, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:HI PENGUIN!! ♥♥♥♥
In post 32, Farren wrote:I was lynched D1; my partner D2. I picked a fight with a Mason and didn't even realize he *was* a Mason.
Hey that was me! :lol:
hello again Farren! So glad you're town this game.

Join me in lynching scum on D1 again.
VOTE: Cheeky

I'd vote gyro just for the sheer principle of removing unpleasantness but I feel like.. that will probably sort itself out, much like chibiie :giggle:

More shortly. Dealing with work BS at the moment.
In post 78, CheekyTeeky wrote::) now things are getting interesting.

VOTE: EspeciallyTheLies

Yeah...now what?
In post 96, ArthurConyl wrote:I'm not sure if this is scum behavior, either that or he's really eager to vote. It's also odd that he is totally certain that Cheeky is scum when he hasn't done anything to indicate that. Remember this is his first post and he's certain someone is scum and votes him. I'm voting for him until he explains.
VOTE: EspeciallyTheLies
In post 104, Gyro Zeppeli wrote:VOTE: especiallytheliea

Providing no backup claims to his vote.


I can think of reasons for both town-ETL and scum-ETL to make that post, so I'm waiting for ETL to return and explain further.

I can also think of both town and scum reasons to jump on the ETL wagon - which vary quite a bit depending on ETL's alignment, so I am hoping she responds sooner rather than later.

I'd be shocked if ETL *and* one of her voters were scum. I'd be similarly shocked if ETL is Town and *none* of her voters were scum.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:05 am
by Farren
In post 111, chazary wrote:Well Gyro just voted ETL and also just got banned and you were the only one I could tell still didn't have a vote on you atm. It really was just random. Just trying to get involved in the scheming and whatnot.
Why choose to vote for someone who doesn't have any votes on them? How does that get you involved in the scheming?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:21 am
by CheekyTeeky
Phoenix how's the scum chat going?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:31 am
by CheekyTeeky
PP any scum reads yet? Are you scumreading Gyro or is it a lingering RVS vote?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 am
by Farren
Arthur: any townreads?
Ph0enix: same question.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 am
by PenguinPower
In post 140, CheekyTeeky wrote:PP any scum reads yet? Are you scumreading Gyro or is it a lingering RVS vote?
In post 130, PenguinPower wrote:Yes. A few, actually. Most of his posts are empty without followup; unlike Cheeky, I didn't like his response to having three votes; and, I like the wagon dynamics right now.
Though now I'm the only one on the slot.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:54 am
by CheekyTeeky
I feel like Gyro was pretty lynchbaity. Phoenix has become a greater concern which I'll show my working for soon.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:58 am
by CheekyTeeky
Chazary how much mafia experience do you have?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:21 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 143, CheekyTeeky wrote:I feel like Gyro was pretty lynchbaity. Phoenix has become a greater concern which I'll show my working for soon.
Actually I'm pretty happy that Chazary is town based on his stream of thought posting style.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:28 pm
by CheekyTeeky
Misquoted^

I need more from Arthur and ETL.
Gyro slot probably town.
Farren probably town.
Pp hard to say but I'm going with town.

Norman still hasn't posted.
Phoenix is a current scumread.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:51 pm
by chazary
In post 144, CheekyTeeky wrote:Chazary how much mafia experience do you have?
Played online back in middle school and then never again until now. VERY rusty.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:59 pm
by chazary
In post 138, Farren wrote:
In post 111, chazary wrote:Well Gyro just voted ETL and also just got banned and you were the only one I could tell still didn't have a vote on you atm. It really was just random. Just trying to get involved in the scheming and whatnot.
Why choose to vote for someone who doesn't have any votes on them? How does that get you involved in the scheming?
Like you guys were saying just to press them for responses. Looking back Pp was pretty responsive anyway but I guess I just wanted to see his reaction to being voted for since he didn't have any at the time. But also like I said I think I was confused by the way the votes were distributed so maybe im not making sense.

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:28 pm
by chazary
In post 145, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 143, CheekyTeeky wrote:I feel like Gyro was pretty lynchbaity. Phoenix has become a greater concern which I'll show my working for soon.
Actually I'm pretty happy that Chazary is town based on his stream of thought posting style.
Funny seeing as I haven't had one coherent thought since 2016.