In post 121, JJJ wrote:"do you have a problem with that?"
obviously I have a problem with it. And you're not even addressing anything I said. You're not trying to form a read on me, you're just spewing crap like you were in the first place
please don't misrep me with this crap tho
the entire reason for calling you out is to play the game? if this isn't me engaging with you, then what its?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:41 pm
by Iconeum
do you think scum!Ico feels the need to form an actual scumread this stage of the game?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:42 pm
by Iconeum
that's not to say i think ur scum
i don't know
i think your RVS is the scummiest i've seen, and it stood out strongly enough for me to call you out for it
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:46 pm
by Iconeum
I think ur extremely defensive for a simple callout tho
If you are town, do you really have a problem with me calling something that I think was scum indicative out?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:52 pm
by Datisi
emps1 has been prodded and has (expired on 2019-12-24 05:52:18) to post before I start looking for a replacement.
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:54 pm
by Iconeum
In post 10, Menalque wrote:Hard townread on Aldus, he’s locktown basically
the mason pt helps with that
And it’s very very suspicious that icon chose to go on his regular weekend as the game started and not take first post, he’s honestly kinda lockscum in my eyes
Keep the text 70+, please. :>
- D
yo emps, i've been made already
menal is just too good at reading me like in every single game
if i'm lynched today, NK him to avenge me then you can lurk the game out until LYLO ok?
slightly more serious, AF is a townread so far as well
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:59 pm
by JJJ
That's far from a misrep, your responses did not constitute trying to solve, read, our slot, anything like that. To call it an omgus vote is to discredit
me
when your reasons for voting us don't make any sense. At least it doesn't make sense for you to single this slot out for the reasons you've stated and then say nothing about other slots that are guilty of the same traits you claim to see in us.
Funnily enough I was going to answer the question asked to uncrowned regarding emps and our answers are almost identical. But answering that question for him not only makes me unable to form a read on him based on a response, but it also makes both of us look scummier as a result. So I didn't.
As for your 124, he was prompted to give an answer on his thoughts. I wasn't. I prodded emps before Unc even explained his thoughts because I was trying to get the slot to do something that provided readable content rather than be able to coast by and have a completely non-existent/disingenuous RVS. Which is exactly what he's done so far. And coincidentally enough, fits the exact description of why you have a problem with our slot (disingenuous RVS) except our slot has actually been in more discussion other than one useless "vote", even if most of it was goofing around.
So I'm gonna need you to stop being ignorant if you're town. Any maybe try a little harder to make your stances look believable if scum. If not for me, then for your partner's sake.
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:00 pm
by JJJ
In post 129, Iconeum wrote:I think ur extremely defensive for a simple callout tho
If you are town, do you really have a problem with me calling something that I think was scum indicative out?
I have a problem with how little sense it makes. And since I know I'm town why should I allow you to paint me in such a disgusting and untruthful way?
-X
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:04 pm
by Iconeum
In post 135, JJJ wrote:That's far from a misrep, your responses did not constitute trying to solve, read, our slot, anything like that. To call it an omgus vote is to discredit
me
when your reasons for voting us don't make any sense. At least it doesn't make sense for you to single this slot out for the reasons you've stated and then say nothing about other slots that are guilty of the same traits you claim to see in us.
Funnily enough I was going to answer the question asked to uncrowned regarding emps and our answers are almost identical. But answering that question for him not only makes me unable to form a read on him based on a response, but it also makes both of us look scummier as a result. So I didn't.
As for your 124, he was prompted to give an answer on his thoughts. I wasn't. I prodded emps before Unc even explained his thoughts because I was trying to get the slot to do something that provided readable content rather than be able to coast by and have a completely non-existent/disingenuous RVS. Which is exactly what he's done so far. And coincidentally enough, fits the exact description of why you have a problem with our slot (disingenuous RVS) except our slot has actually been in more discussion other than one useless "vote", even if most of it was goofing around.
So I'm gonna need you to stop being ignorant if you're town. Any maybe try a little harder to make your stances look believable if scum. If not for me, then for your partner's sake.
can we talk this over, slowly?
You cannot say i'm not trying to solve your slot. I saw something scummy, i called it out, we are now talking about it.
I'm calling your vote OMGUS because the moment I voted you, you return the favor based on nothing more then 'zomg this dude can't possibly be serious'. Currentely undetermined if that is more likely to come from scum or town!you.
Maybe my reasons for voting you don't make sense to
you
, but they most certainly make sense to
me
.
If I had the same feelings about other slots as with you, i'd not hesitate in calling them out as well. But as it stands, I think your opening really read poorly to me. So please don't say it's MY fault for being ignorant when you had no game-progressing intentions with your RVS. Or at least that's how I read it.
In post 129, Iconeum wrote:I think ur extremely defensive for a simple callout tho
If you are town, do you really have a problem with me calling something that I think was scum indicative out?
I have a problem with how little sense it makes. And since I know I'm town why should I allow you to paint me in such a disgusting and untruthful way?
-X
I think ur taking it a little strong, tho?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:07 pm
by Iconeum
In post 135, JJJ wrote:As for your 124, he was prompted to give an answer on his thoughts. I wasn't. I prodded emps before Unc even explained his thoughts because I was trying to get the slot to do something that provided readable content rather than be able to coast by and have a completely non-existent/disingenuous RVS. Which is exactly what he's done so far. And coincidentally enough, fits the exact description of why you have a problem with our slot (disingenuous RVS) except our slot has actually been in more discussion other than one useless "vote", even if most of it was goofing around.
It's not about both of you calling emps out on the same thing. It's how you went about it.
I think the 'dry' way you called emps out can be easily faked as scum, but Uncrowned really felt natural in his explanation.
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:08 pm
by Iconeum
HH, so far I don't know who you are.
But can you answer me, have I played with either head before?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:11 pm
by JJJ
Okay. I'll accept that. I'm not in a great mood rn and maybe I'll feel differently about your approach in the morning. So it's probably best that I just wait until then to continue this conversation.
But can you answer me, have I played with either head before?
Yes
-X
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:13 pm
by Iconeum
i'm not trying to offend you or anything
if i've upset you then it was unintentional
i'll be here to discuss just how genuine i am or anything else
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:15 pm
by JJJ
Thank you for explaining yourself in a clear manner even though I was being snappy at you. I do genuinely respect that. Like I said, I will have more to say tomorrow and I will try to approach it in a more constructive, open-minded manner.
In post 63, Alduskkel wrote:Also I legitimately want to know what was going through Chemist's head when he wrote post 19 and voted someone he just called conftown.
I'm fairly certain that was a joke for both the conftown thing and the following vote
I was pinged by 13 and then even more by 63. I have no idea what he's getting at with bringing up the NewbScum greeting tell thing when I'm not new by any stretch?
Also don't like how he's legitimately scumreads Chemist over his 19.
I mean you're saying WHAT you're scum reading but I'm not seeing any WHY here. Elaborate?
I dislike the lack of commital to an actual vote. Emps jumped on the meme without actually doing anything.
In post 105, Uncrowned wrote:Because scum would rather be non-commital and not get involved in having to come up with BS explanations for their actions. If they're scum, this gives Emps an easy start to the game so they can read and react later on.
Too bad I called it out.
one of these felt genuine to me, the other didn't
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:45 am
by Alduskkel
ok but why is HH's not genuine
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:45 am
by Iconeum
i'm not sure if i can phrase the 'feeling' any better, if you can't see what I mean for yourself
but HH's attitude and the way he went about emps can easily come from scum imo, while UC lays out a townie thought process
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:46 am
by Iconeum
by the way statistically emps is conftown this game