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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:18 pm
by bugspray
Can you explain that but coherent

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:19 pm
by bugspray
I'll defend myself when I know what I'm defending against

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:25 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 118, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 113, Luca Blight wrote:Actually two people voted you for it; George was voting you before your claim.

I think it's natural to suspect potential role-fishing early in a newbie. Your votes were warranted; it does nothing to suggest you might be Town.
Then you might be going blind.
Bugs Unvoted me to GB then switched back to me after they voted you.
GB only voted me to sheep Bugs’s Meme vote on me.
(He even said “Choo Choo”)
Perhaps you're the one going blind, as you've misunderstood another post of mine.

You said three players voted you based on the claim, I said only two did (me and Bugs) and that George was already voting you from RVS.

And no-one voted me?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:32 pm
by bugspray
My initial vote on tse was also literally rvs

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:04 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 122, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: @Luca
You wanna read my thread?
I had a little look but couldn't see what you were referring to, could you link the the relevant post?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:46 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 127, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 118, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 113, Luca Blight wrote:Actually two people voted you for it; George was voting you before your claim.

I think it's natural to suspect potential role-fishing early in a newbie. Your votes were warranted; it does nothing to suggest you might be Town.
Then you might be going blind.
Bugs Unvoted me to GB then switched back to me after they voted you.
GB only voted me to sheep Bugs’s Meme vote on me.
(He even said “Choo Choo”)
Perhaps you're the one going blind, as you've misunderstood another post of mine.

You said three players voted you based on the claim, I said only two did (me and Bugs) and that George was already voting you from RVS.

And no-one voted me?
George says he scum read me based off my reaction if you look at his ISO.

I meant you voted me, my bad.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:47 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
Like after you voted me, Bugs switched back to me.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:48 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 128, bugspray wrote:My initial vote on tse was also literally rvs
No duh Sherlock.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:49 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 129, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 122, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: @Luca
You wanna read my thread?
I had a little look but couldn't see what you were referring to, could you link the the relevant post?
It was where I said to call Jackson’s Neighbourhood Masons.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:00 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 122, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: VOTE: Bugs

Yeah I’m not liking how your playing this game.
I wasn’t going to vote you just yet but when you say I’m lying about doing something on a link. That’s just scum tell.
This is a pretty blatant misrep btw.

Are you seriously SR'ing Bugs for that?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:45 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 134, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 122, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: VOTE: Bugs

Yeah I’m not liking how your playing this game.
I wasn’t going to vote you just yet but when you say I’m lying about doing something on a link. That’s just scum tell.
This is a pretty blatant misrep btw.

Are you seriously SR'ing Bugs for that?
I’m just saying out of you, GB and Bugs.
Bugs is most likely to be the mafia.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:17 pm
by Plotinus
Official Vote Count 1.04
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Rule 150


Class 3 seem to remain in a random state forever




LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

TrueSoulEnergy
(3): GeorgeBailey, Luca Blight, bugspray
bugspray
(2): clidd, TrueSoulEnergy
GeorgeBailey
(1): JacksonVirgo
chazary
(1): Chuck Shurley

Not Voting
(2): TheLordOfKittens, chazary

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-02-07 18:00:00).


Mod notes:
Chuck Shurley is V/LA until Sunday night[/area]

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:03 pm
by Plotinus
TheLordOfKittens is being replaced for inactivity. If they show up before I find someone, they can stay.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:34 pm
by Plotinus
clidd is being replaced for inactivity. If they post game advancing content before I find someone, they can stay.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:02 pm
by Luca Blight
It's good to have an attentive mod. I appreciate it :)

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:08 am
by bugspray
In post 131, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Like after you voted me, Bugs switched back to me.
forming wagons early on on day1 is the core of scumhunting.

all you've offered so far is flaccid deflection

@tse
Why am I more likely to be scum than GB?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:56 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 140, bugspray wrote:
In post 131, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Like after you voted me, Bugs switched back to me.
forming wagons early on on day1 is the core of scumhunting.

all you've offered so far is flaccid deflection

@tse
Why am I more likely to be scum than GB?
Not sure how I’m deflecting.

Your more likely to be scum then GB because your vote between me, you comments on me seems opportunistic and you seem to be looking to form a miss lynch on me and I don’t feel you actually plan to change your vote on me but rather hope you can pull of a miss lynch.
As for GB he actually gave a good portion of reasoning.
He even said his original vote wasn’t to scum read me but rather memy. It’s not until I reacted to it that made him scum read me.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:44 am
by bugspray
You are my strongest scum read and there is a wagon on you so you're right on thinking that I'm going to keep voting you for now. But don't you think it's really weird how quiet gb has been?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:45 am
by chazary
In post 89, Chuck Shurley wrote: That said, serious VOTE: chazary

It's been a really long time since I played mafia at all, but IME jumping on discussion of roles so early in the game, especially with such obvious bait, is a mark of newb scum.
In post 100, Chuck Shurley wrote:To clarify- chazary stated in their completed game that they've played before, but they're rusty. Rusty isn't newbie, it's just...rusty.
I'm curious, if you read my past game and knew that I said that why are you voting me for a "newb scum" move? Were you trying to see if I'd deny it or not?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:50 am
by chazary
Also yikes TSE I don't see why you can't just link to past examples of this claim tactic or whatever. And your posts seem more and more panicky and defensive.

Also Luca and Bugs are coming off pretty town here although I was and still am kind of null on Bugs just because of his initial questions and how he reacted to other peoples answers. But that's long past and has gotten us out of RVS quickly so I am thankful for them in retrospect.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:28 am
by Chuck Shurley
chazary wrote:I'm curious, if you read my past game and knew that I said that why are you voting me for a "newb scum" move? Were you trying to see if I'd deny it or not?
Chuck's thought process:

Well that's an interesting post...oh hey, look at that, it's newb scum.

Hm, deflection about motive, interesting, let's do a background check.

Huh. Not actually new to playing mafia, so the "newb" part doesn't apply. However, they didn't bother to tell me that part. Let's call'em out.

But Chuck, they haven't played since middle school. Maybe they played differently back then.

If that's the case, that means my initial newb scumslip response still has merit AND they still focused on alignment versus my assumption AND they were weirdly nervous about the contents of other posts.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:39 am
by Chuck Shurley
Did anyone else notice that Jackson is simultaneously tactically distancing themselves from AND emotionally buddying with TSE? This is calculated behavior and I'm curious about the motivation behind it.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:31 am
by bugspray
In post 146, Chuck Shurley wrote:Did anyone else notice that Jackson is simultaneously tactically distancing themselves from AND emotionally buddying with TSE? This is calculated behavior and I'm curious about the motivation behind it.
I think it's just like the mechanical wtf of this game mixed with friendship strains. JV is more like a nullread from me but I definitely scumread stirner. He usually memes a lot more in the games where I've seen him as town. Check his iso from newbie 1980 to see what I'm talking about

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:54 am
by Chuck Shurley
I'm assuming you mean TSE, not stirner? I'll check out 1980 as soon as I can to see what I think, but unfortunately, as I mentioned before:
I'm on VLA until Sunday afternoon
.

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:12 am
by Chuck Shurley
Before I leave entirely: sup, clidd? Why are you ignoring this game?