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Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:50 am
by Ph0enix
In post 123, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 121, Titus wrote:TSE, I guess you're on translation duty.

Phoenix, I'll try to explain my theory tonight. It makes sense in my head as an aha type moment but I'm not the clearest.
He’s just giving buddy reads.
Whom he thinks are scum buddies.
That part I understand, it's just that his phrasing confuses me, idk.

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:11 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 118, QuantumQuasar wrote:Phi posted only once? Two goons versus PR/goon, one silent one talkative

Considering Phi Kappa silent pull info from

tapioca easy pull
karnage close enough to be sideways
lunar both silen
phoenix precise nervous
tse present similar opposite enough to be forgotten
titus blase but could be hiding more
cheeky further aloof

cheeky tapioca
cheeky karnage
cheeky lunar
cheeky phoenix
cheeky tse
cheeky titus
cheeky phi

titus lunar
titus phi ok combo
titus cheeky soso
titus karnage fed
titus phoenix lasso

lunar karnage / karnage lunar commodores

phoenix tapioca
titus tapioca karnage titus
I'm really confused about how you got here?

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:13 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 123, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:He’s just giving buddy reads.
Whom he thinks are scum buddies
Yeah but based on what?

At this point I'm only townreading Phoneix and Tap. We need more wagons or something.

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:05 pm
by Karnage
In post 127, CheekyTeeky wrote:At this point I'm only townreading Phoneix and Tap. We need more wagons or something.
I went back and looked at ph0enix's ISO and I probably judged him too harshly for his reaction to QQ.

What are you seeing from tap that makes him a town read?

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:11 pm
by Karnage
In post 117, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Your posts you made as a greater possibility of it being done by scum then that of Cheeky’s posts.
Elaborate

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:13 pm
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 129, Karnage wrote:
In post 117, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Your posts you made as a greater possibility of it being done by scum then that of Cheeky’s posts.
Elaborate
Nothing they did ping me.

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:01 pm
by Plotinus
Official Vote Count 1.05
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LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

QuantumQuasar
(2): Ph0enix, CheekyTeeky
Karnage
(2): Titus, TrueSoulEnergy
Phi Kappa Phi
(1): Tapiocaphobe
Ph0enix
(1): QuantumQuasar
LunarRest
(1): Phi Kappa Phi
Tapiocaphobe
(1): Karnage

Not Voting
(1): LunarRest

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-03-07 22:45:00).


Mod notes:
Phi Kappa Phi is being replaced.[/area]

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:43 am
by Plotinus
Tapiocaphobe1 has been prodded and has (expired on 2020-03-02 21:21:00) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:52 am
by Tapiocaphobe
sorry still around, I need to reread

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:02 am
by CheekyTeeky
Zzzz

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:03 am
by QuantumQuasar
vote ph0enix

post #51

rule #4 Don't talk about ongoing games - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.

My vote is fhe only correct one because we're not bandwagoning day one

Plus, Lunarrest and Phi can both be afk and considered incapacitated in an estate where we all hold joint shares so in the event no action happens on night one (as it should because we're not waiting for blood to be spilled)

then why replace them?

vote ph0enix and let the two others be afk

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:07 am
by CheekyTeeky
QQ you want to policy lynch Phoenix?

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:08 am
by Titus
I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:28 am
by QuantumQuasar
Voting ph0enix due to a violation of a rule is fact based.

I would still have a clear conscience.

The point is that a reference has been made to an external realm. What happened on post #51 affected the integrity of all participants in that instance and in this present one.

I had a hunch reasoning earlier on tells and I'm not trying to convince anyone of the defensibility on this action as I might be wrong and you are responsible for your own actions, instead of relying on behavioral reads I would be much more comfortable just lynching who is already guilty from a broken rule.

With regard to whoever is afk maybe they gave up and we should bear responsibility as time is running

I'm very sorry I don't know about you but one life. I'm not YOLOing my life and I don't know if I'll live by day two.

I'd rather think of the defensibility of my actions at the gates of heaven on judgement day.

That's why as a disclaimer regarding responsibility, a rule was broken and the consequence is not mine.

What's worse is the persistence of error.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:41 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
I wanna say QQ is Town from his recent content but I also haven’t played with them before.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:42 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
Then again re-reading it, it looks like shit.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:50 am
by CheekyTeeky
In post 137, Titus wrote:I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).
:roll: so you townread everyone else?

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:51 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 141, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 137, Titus wrote:I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).
:roll: so you townread everyone else?
How TF did you reach that conclusion?

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:59 am
by CheekyTeeky
Um QQ someone breaking the rules is Not Alignment Indicative (NAI) therefore you are lynching them because you dislike something they have done rather than thinking they are scum which is pretty much what a policy lynch is.

Like I could policy lynch Titus because her reads are terrible (which is NAI) but I'm actually scumreading Titus because I feel her behaviour is more likely from scum. I think he votes so far are busy work rather than her actually ascertaining a read on players and her confidence in Cheeky/karnage being scum reads fake. Iirc Titus usually takes a while getting into the game so I think she knows people's alignments and is acting awkward scum. Now there's just the question of who is her partner...

QQ you need to do more than be nonsensical and try to actually figure out the intent of what players are doing. Like is rule breaking more likely to come from scum and why? Why would town perpetrate the same behaviour?

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:00 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 142, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 141, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 137, Titus wrote:I just feel Karnage and Cheeky are doing good cop bad cop here. (Not cop roles but it's an interrogation tactic).
:roll: so you townread everyone else?
How TF did you reach that conclusion?
Can you please not interfere? Thanks.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:03 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 128, Karnage wrote:
In post 127, CheekyTeeky wrote:At this point I'm only townreading Phoneix and Tap. We need more wagons or something.
I went back and looked at ph0enix's ISO and I probably judged him too harshly for his reaction to QQ.

What are you seeing from tap that makes him a town read?
The Tap read is related to my Titus read. I like Tap's reaction to his wagon.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:15 pm
by QuantumQuasar
We can't have collective responsibility but we can have privateand individual good conscience from our own actions. The incentive to lynch to obtain feedback is a morally false premise fpr divide and conquer tactics.

I mentioned earlier the statue sculpted as law is better for the custody of Phi Kappa Phi and Lunarrest.

Instead of looking for an anchor and bias, I'm not going to speculate and focus what I can do.

I would recommend lynching ph0enix and ending the day early with phi kappa phi and lunarrest inactive before they wake up from their slumber after more than 48 hours so we can get moving instead of beating around the bush.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:23 pm
by Karnage
QQ reminds me of DocWatson in Newbie 1952. Watson's first handful of posts were copied and pasted from a Hectic newbie game. I forget the why they did this but they were town. QQ's posts, though not the same thing, give me a similar vibe which is why I'm not prepared to make any decision about their alignment yet

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:25 pm
by Karnage
In post 130, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Nothing they did ping me.
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I meant elaborate on why my posts make you think i'm more likely to be scum

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:27 pm
by Karnage
In post 121, Titus wrote:I'll try to explain my theory tonight. It makes sense in my head as an aha type moment but I'm not the clearest.
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