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SETUP
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Spoiler: Sample Town Role PM
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:17 pm
by Fredrick A Campbell
In post 122, Mohab500 wrote:So, I make an RVS vote, then after RVS I remove it, and suddenly everybody somehow didn't expect that?
Exactly. I didn't expect that.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:20 am
by Raya36
Welcome to the game Umlaut!
In post 94, Umlaut wrote:First impressions based on basically nothing:
In post 105, Eevee wrote:Pedit: is that a good point pirate donkey sherrif? Raya bringing that point up doesn't mean she's scum since it sounds valid and means - wait do you mean suboptimal or optimal plan? if you propose optimal plans as scum then she's right to point out it's NAI and that does the same thing of getting us out of RVS
i suppose her route was one that requires more substance than a meta read which would be easy to make for scum but it wouldn't be a scummy one to make
Arg let me dumb down the pirate talk fer clarity sake.
The plan I purposed there was worded to sound pro-town even though it was advocating what is normally suboptimal play in lovers mafia (I was voicing to delay claiming the pairs until halfway through the phase to get "more info out of reactions to the pair claims").
My stance on the matter is that she's townish, or at the very least telling the truth about wanting to force the game pass rvs. While it's true scum!ray could of pointed it out in a NAI way, I think scum ray could of very easily turned it into an opportunity to actually push me/actively discredit me. The total lack of mentioning it sticks out, and I'm struggling to see why scum!ray would ignore it knowing what she knows.
Spoiler: rambling over NAI call out
I think you could say that scum!ray pointing it out as NAI is pro-scum as well since it actively is disrupting town from forming town reads, but if I remember correctly ray admitted their scum play is very underwhelming so I'm not sure if they would see that more advance move as scum (no offense). I rather not accept that yet since I never actually read their scum game during lovers lol. It's also hard to separate that theory from if town!ray had answer (hence why it is a better move for scum to make over shading me but I digress)
Idk if I can help clear anything up because ya know, wifom. My initial rvs vote on you was just for voting votato back. Not a big deal in rvs. But then when you supported porkens for voting votato as well and then invited others to join in the wagon I saw it as a good opportunity to call you out and get the game going
Slight townlean on snowblaze. I find scum tend not to open with a pile of reads.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:25 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 110, Snowblaze wrote:Porkens’ calling someone out on lack of useful content on the first page is... odd, but not necessarily scummy. I’m not sure scum would be likely to draw attention to themselves that early on, and I feel like it could be more town trying to get the game out of RVS.
Do you find his later comments to votato trying to get out of RVS? Specifically after votato rebutalled?
Yeah, that’s really what I’m counting on to carry me through the first couple of days before my teammates can bus me for the win
They can't bus you though in this set up since they auto lose day 3 onwards.
What an ingenious plan! I see no flaws in this masterful scum plan of yours! Allow me to enable your bussing by voting you.
VOTE: Craig
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:29 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 122, Mohab500 wrote:So, I make an RVS vote, then after RVS I remove it, and suddenly everybody somehow didn't expect that?
Do you think anyone hoping on that train of logic is scum?
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:34 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 127, Raya36 wrote:Idk if I can help clear anything up because ya know, wifom. My initial rvs vote on you was just for voting votato back. Not a big deal in rvs. But then when you supported porkens for voting votato as well and then invited others to join in the wagon I saw it as a good opportunity to call you out and get the game going
Slight townlean on snowblaze. I find scum tend not to open with a pile of reads.
I mean not really since it's over what you havent done.
I also disagree on snowblaze and actually
FoS
the readlist. I found most of the reads (pork, Ulmant, mohab, craig) non-committal or providing reasons to not fully trust in it (ulmant on chem for example). The only 3 committed reads there are a townlean on me and eevee and a town ping on you.
In post 122, Mohab500 wrote:So, I make an RVS vote, then after RVS I remove it, and suddenly everybody somehow didn't expect that?
Exactly. I didn't expect that.
Hello musical composer.
Would you like to give opinions on the events of the game. Are you in favor for the main wagon so far? Who do you like better: eve or eva?
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:38 am
by Mohab500
I mean, the reason is pretty garbage but town makes all kinds of random plays sometimes so I wouldn't be surprised if they turn out to be town. But I will say that if it were to get piled upon as the main reason then the wagon is probably being pushed further by scum (which, from my briefly skim, does not seem to be happening in this game).
Too lazy to make a reads list atm, will do later.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:39 am
by Mohab500
who the fuck is eva?
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:44 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 133, Mohab500 wrote:I mean, the reason is pretty garbage but town makes all kinds of random plays sometimes so I wouldn't be surprised if they turn out to be town. But I will say that if it were to get piled upon as the main reason then the wagon is probably being pushed further by scum (
which, from my briefly skim, does not seem to be happening in this game).
Too lazy to make a reads list atm, will do later.
That works for me. I look forward to the reads list.
In post 127, Raya36 wrote:Idk if I can help clear anything up because ya know, wifom. My initial rvs vote on you was just for voting votato back. Not a big deal in rvs. But then when you supported porkens for voting votato as well and then invited others to join in the wagon I saw it as a good opportunity to call you out and get the game going
Slight townlean on snowblaze. I find scum tend not to open with a pile of reads.
I mean not really since it's over what you havent done.
I also disagree on snowblaze and actually
FoS
the readlist. I found most of the reads (pork, Ulmant, mohab, craig) non-committal or providing reasons to not fully trust in it (ulmant on chem for example). The only 3 committed reads there are a townlean on me and eevee and a town ping on you.
That's a good point
Snowblaze, do you think you could explain some of your reads?
In post 127, Raya36 wrote:Idk if I can help clear anything up because ya know, wifom. My initial rvs vote on you was just for voting votato back. Not a big deal in rvs. But then when you supported porkens for voting votato as well and then invited others to join in the wagon I saw it as a good opportunity to call you out and get the game going
Slight townlean on snowblaze. I find scum tend not to open with a pile of reads.
I mean not really since it's over what you havent done.
I also disagree on snowblaze and actually
FoS
the readlist. I found most of the reads (pork, Ulmant, mohab, craig) non-committal or providing reasons to not fully trust in it (ulmant on chem for example). The only 3 committed reads there are a townlean on me and eevee and a town ping on you.
That's a good point
Snowblaze, do you think you could explain some of your reads?
I'm not really sure what more I can explain - that's about all I've got at the moment. It's less than 24 hours since the game started, I'm mostly going on instinct and vague impressions right now. (Plus I'm tired for some reason, so being lazy.)
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:37 am
by Umlaut
In post 110, Snowblaze wrote:Not really sure where Umlaut’s getting his townlean on Chemist from, but the other reads do make sense.
I can try and explain this.
60 is not an obvious read, talking about mechanics is as likely to be found scummy as towny, so it comes off to me like an actual gut feeling Chemist had and gut reads are not so easy to emulate as "logical" reads.
Also, 80 and 82 basically admitting to being biased by avatars feels town to me.
Chemist probably should vote though.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:04 am
by Snowblaze
Good, that makes sense. Have some town points!
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:29 am
by Craig Pelton
Oh no, a wagon! Whatever shall I do? I have the strong impression that all of frederick, Holden, and homura are scum!
what's the goal here Craig? you trying to gauge reactions to these shenanigins? i guess we don't see our patterns until they are laid out in front of us
the snow tiger is usually unsure and paranoid early on but she doesn't usually have so many reads at the start so the early list is actually kinda scum-indicative for me based on meta
In post 124, Mohab500 wrote:I am gonna ask a really dumb question but, can there be power roles in this game?
really doubling down on the dumbtelling huh - i don't like it
In post 122, Mohab500 wrote:So, I make an RVS vote, then after RVS I remove it, and suddenly everybody somehow didn't expect that?
your original vote was for RVS - unvoting suggests you think we've left RVS and there's alignment-indicative stuff out there
if so why didn't you move it to someone else?