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I think that Cabd might be town here, unless Syr already signalled to them.

Yeah. By the end of day 1, after leading the katsuki wagon, I thought our megahood was all town. Then we died on N1.

This is not the same. Also, whether he's town or scum if he gets pressured enough the dethy will revealed. That's what happened in Death's Diner. The traitor started pushing him in the dethy QT, and the 3 other town bought in enough that he was getting run up. That's how of any of us, town or scum would react.

I'd have a hard time seeing the dethy as a pro-town organization if I were being run up by my neighbors, and I'd expect my flip to mean the next day the dethy would scumhunt itself even harder. At which point I'd probably see more town utility in knowing this huge piece of the game design.

In post 124, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I was trying to tease Cabd into revealing if they were implicitly scum and if they knew of a traitor.

This will never work on a player like Cabd.

But, he'll probably speculate a great deal about your post. And he's probably going to ask me about you, which will be fun!

The only thing that might save you from that kind of scrutiny is his current fixation on Bell.

I mean, you guys already think I'm probably the scum here, so it's not like I'm going to ask for help.

In post 128, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I mean, you guys already think I'm probably the scum here, so it's not like I'm going to ask for help.

I don't plan to push you in the game thread today. As long as the dethy has a chance to work as an actual dethy, that won't change.

Also, I could be wrong about you.

In post 128, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I mean, you guys already think I'm probably the scum here, so it's not like I'm going to ask for help.

Yeah but it’s no way set in stone. It’s early day one, you haven’t given much and that’s what it feels like, but that’s not confident.

In post 112, Tammy wrote:Which means ffery posts about wanting bell, petapan, Cabd, and syr to be alll town was a signal that she knows that Cabd, petapan and bell is the scum team and syr’s just thrown in there for good measure because he can’t pissibky be scum if she is

So then Cabd brought up 167 flavors of pizza and my 167 was a game where Cabd and ffery were scum together

It’s all come together then they’ve found each other, Cabd is scum and ffery is his traitor gotcha

I don’t really think this is real when I sit back and really think about it, but this occupied wayyy too much of my morning when I should have fallen back to sleep :/

I'm not gonna lie some scenario similar to this one occurred to me after you talked about me always townreading ffery but I don't think this is the world we're living in and if it is I give you all the license in the world to shit on me at whatever theoretical point we realize this is the world we're living in

In post 121, fferyllt wrote:I just really didn't like his posts from this morning. It's not a meta thing.

I feel like it shouldn't be pursued this game day, but on the other hand I'd love to have a masonry more than I'd love to sort out who's the sane and who's the insane cop.

In an ideal scenario we all cop Jake tonight (or whoever we end up settling on as traitor), out results tomorrow then burn their ass

Tammy wrote:

In post 128, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I mean, you guys already think I'm probably the scum here, so it's not like I'm going to ask for help.

<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yeah but it’s no way set in stone. It’s early day one, you haven’t given much and that’s what it feels like, but that’s not confident.

If we lose the traitor and gain a masonry I'm still a-okay with that and we can all cop one of us for similar results because once traitor is dead we get solid cop results without needing a burn anyways

Trying to investigate a potential burn/NK target is kinda hard to do but we could try it I guess?

I'm getting sidetracked a bit I think

In post 122, Tammy wrote: Difference is we know we have a traitor and right now it seems like it’s jack but at the same time that feels too easy. It’s rarely just that easy. So just one of the things I’m watching.

I'm pretty happy with my razor made by ockham at the moment, if we end up in a nightmare scenario where somehow Taylor and Jack are both town then we can get a head start on how bad the Psych Ward hydra really is gonna be (that's your, my and ffery's 3 headed hydra we're gonna make for borkgame or some other game)

In post 123, Jake The Wolfie wrote:For every town we execute here, a cop goes slightly less sane.

What's your point sir, the cops literally don't even matter if we can't figure out the sanities effectively making us all VTs with a potential role

Tammy wrote:

In post 128, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I mean, you guys already think I'm probably the scum here, so it's not like I'm going to ask for help.

<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Yeah but it’s no way set in stone. It’s early day one, you haven’t given much and that’s what it feels like, but that’s not confident.

Bud if you're town now is the time to convince us, don't hand the scum a mason-cop just cause it's frustrating

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Why do quotes do this sometimes

In post 131, Syryana wrote:Bud if you're town now is the time to convince us, don't hand the scum a mason-cop just cause it's frustrating

I may have said this before reading the in game thread and possibly now regret everything

In post 131, Syryana wrote:What's your point sir, the cops literally don't even matter if we can't figure out the sanities effectively making us all VTs with a potential role

Each wrong town we expel here, we risk losing the sane cop.

Which reminds me: How are we going to figure out who is
what?

In post 134, Jake The Wolfie wrote:

In post 131, Syryana wrote:What's your point sir, the cops literally don't even matter if we can't figure out the sanities effectively making us all VTs with a potential role

Each wrong town we expel here, we risk losing the sane cop.

Which reminds me: How are we going to figure out who is
what?

The sane cop doesn't matter if they don't know they're sane. Because nobody in this dethy got a pre-game result (day 0 cops are a thing in dethys) at bare minimum it's day 3 before any of us can have any idea what sanity we are with high potential to never know if the other cops get picked off at night anyways. We have two and a half high value targets in here for NKs and the odds of all of them making it alive to d3 is kinda low

As for how, probably the wiki we already linked a few times

In post 134, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Which reminds me: How are we going to figure out who is
what?

Five investigations on the same player yield 5 results:

paranoid cop - always guilty
naive cop - always inno
insane cop - opposite of alignment
sane cop - actual alignment
rolecop - makes something up.

There will be 3 results that are the same, and one of those three is the traitor-rolecop. We go from 5 with the potential of being a traitor to 3.

If we also get a flip, then we start to narrow down which cop is sane and which is insane. (this would not happen in a game consisting only in a dethy).

lather, rinse, repeat and we eventually have enough data to solve the dethy. Meanwhile the game goes on, which impacts what we learn and potentially how many of us are still here to figure things out.

@Syr
Could you rank everyone here from most likely to least likely scum?

I feel like I'll be too obvious if I ask Cabd about their thoughts on Syr. Could someone else do it?

In post 138, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I feel like I'll be too obvious if I ask Cabd about their thoughts on Syr. Could someone else do it?

Too obvious about what

Jake The Wolfie wrote:@Syr Could you rank everyone here from most likely to least likely scum?

I could, but unless you tell me what that information does for you I'm not going to

What are you trying to learn from his thoughts on Syr?

pedit mindmeld!

Nevermind, after a read of their ISO, It turns out I was just missing some context about why Syr/Cab were so synergetic.

I'd like to hear more about what your thoughts were.

I originally thought that Syr was trying to signal Cab that thsy were the traitor, while in here acting as a double-agent to try and push suspicion on me. The context that I was missing was that they were friends.

In post 143, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I originally thought that Syr was trying to signal Cab that thsy were the traitor, while in here acting as a double-agent to try and push suspicion on me. The context that I was missing was that they were friends.

So if you thought I was the traitor and trying to signal to Cabd such, why didn't ffery's crumbing the dethy in her first post to him ping you? Why didn't Taylor quoting that crumb and literally saying the word betray ping you?

mmm agreed. i think we're better off seeing what happens tomorrow and then re-evaluating. its not right to out atm.

pedit it seems we settled on that already

In post 144, Syryana wrote:

In post 143, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I originally thought that Syr was trying to signal Cab that thsy were the traitor, while in here acting as a double-agent to try and push suspicion on me. The context that I was missing was that they were friends.

So if you thought I was the traitor and trying to signal to Cabd such, why didn't ffery's crumbing the dethy in her first post to him ping you? Why didn't Taylor quoting that crumb and literally saying the word betray ping you?

Because I didn't notice those.

In post 146, Jake The Wolfie wrote:

In post 144, Syryana wrote:

In post 143, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I originally thought that Syr was trying to signal Cab that thsy were the traitor, while in here acting as a double-agent to try and push suspicion on me. The context that I was missing was that they were friends.

So if you thought I was the traitor and trying to signal to Cabd such, why didn't ffery's crumbing the dethy in her first post to him ping you? Why didn't Taylor quoting that crumb and literally saying the word betray ping you?

Because I didn't notice those.

So you didn't notice two things that we actually discussed inside this small six page neighborhood but you did notice... whatever it is you noticed me saying to Cabd?

What DID you think I did to crumb to Cabd anyways?

In post 145, Tayl0r Swift wrote:mmm agreed. i think we're better off seeing what happens tomorrow and then re-evaluating. its not right to out atm.

pedit it seems we settled on that already

do you have any thoughts on anything?

In post 147, Syryana wrote:So you didn't notice two things that we actually discussed inside this small six page neighborhood but you did notice... whatever it is you noticed me saying to Cabd?

What DID you think I did to crumb to Cabd anyways?

Well I haven't read the Neighborhood.

I didn't think you crumbed. That's why I looked.