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@schadd, the fickle: is non voting plurality possible?
not sure exactly what u mean here. there's no outcome where an execution does not occur - not voting is not an option for the final choice, it just means that that person's vote isn't being used
i mean like, does gypyx have 8 votes right now
ah! yea that part doesn't take effect until deadline. only majorities within groups can take effect before deadline, so if there are 5 people in your group voting somebody then that person is treated as though they have 8 votes.
@schadd, the fickle: is non voting plurality possible?
not sure exactly what u mean here. there's no outcome where an execution does not occur - not voting is not an option for the final choice, it just means that that person's vote isn't being used
Example. 1 person in a bloc of 8 is voting Player A. All others in that bloc are not voting. Is the bloc not voting or are they voting Player A?
Although judging by this answer I assume it's the latter.
if deadline has expired it is the latter, otherwise the former
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:59 pm
by VFP
Okay, so we can just take that solo groups are pretty strong right now.
I'll probably want to sort these first and if nothing, I'll follow whoever is most alpha in group 1.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:05 pm
by OutWorldER
Momrangal's trajectory on the last page is absolutely awful, by the way.
In post 120, Anya wrote:it didn't mean anything but i don't like your defensiveness over a naked vote so i'm happy with it now
Xtoxm, quiet, Noraa, Auro, Gypyx, tris, Anya, VFP - let's wrap this day up
I'm curious why my defensiveness there pings you as scummy, when your vote was a very good place and timing for scum, especially made naked like that. I should think it warrants some scrutiny and close observation of your slot.
VFP wrote:Okay, so we can just take that solo groups are pretty strong right now.
Curious why you think that. Their two votes, and as the mod just informed, they don't have real impact until the majority in the 8P bloc are voting together.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:09 pm
by VFP
In post 128, OutWorldER wrote:Curious why you think that. Their two votes, and as the mod just informed, they don't have real impact until the majority in the 8P bloc are voting together.
Because they actually have the power to make a split decision if the option is there, the group of 8 people less so.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:09 pm
by OutWorldER
FMPOV, I think sorting the 8P bloc is probably imperative in these early stages. My initial thoughts are that if more than half the scum are outside the 8P bloc they'll probably be working to undermine it, and vice versa if half or more are inside.
A solid town group in the 8P bloc is important either way.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:11 pm
by flow trap
I thought that the Blocs switched around every round?
In post 128, OutWorldER wrote:Curious why you think that. Their two votes, and as the mod just informed, they don't have real impact until the majority in the 8P bloc are voting together.
Because they actually have the power to make a split decision if the option is there, the group of 8 people less so.
I think they're only powerful in certain situations (D2 with 8P bloc untouched, D1 with all 3P blocs voting together). I still think the 8P is more powerful overall. Also as Flow Trap says, the wording of the rules make it seem like there's a possibility of blocs changing with each day.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:14 pm
by VFP
In post 131, flow trap wrote:I thought that the Blocs switched around every round?
I don't see that?
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:15 pm
by VFP
In post 132, OutWorldER wrote:I think they're only powerful in certain situations (D2 with 8P bloc untouched, D1 with all 3P blocs voting together). I still think the 8P is more powerful overall. Also as Flow Trap says, the wording of the rules make it seem like there's a possibility of blocs changing with each day.
That's actually fair, D1 it would require both single or 2/3 in a 3 group to do this.
I take my comment back.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:17 pm
by OutWorldER
You got any alignment thoughts about any players right now, VFP?
with 19 alive, it takes 10 to amicably hand someone some irish soda bread and send them on their way. day 1 ends march 20th at 23:00 central US time; in (expired on 2021-03-21 07:23:00)
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:39 pm
by VFP
In post 135, OutWorldER wrote:You got any alignment thoughts about any players right now, VFP?
Not yet, majority is just about setup or what appears to be inside knowledge / reads on others.
I can't really do RVS / beginning stages too well.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:41 pm
by bugspray
In post 54, Tsutsu wrote:I SMART. Moooooom can I get compliments?
shut up
(i am reading and have a real post soon)
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:55 pm
by bugspray
wow! 6 pages to cartch up
initial thing is that i like my group because mastina is cool and macho man randy savage rp is fun :D
In post 15, mastina wrote:
If he knows my personality and thus knows that I would naturally be inclined to townbloc with my group...it then follows, he inverted it, making the group be scum with the expectation that I would townbeard by townblocking with scum.
i don't feel like this is the kind of evil he means. not evil in the sense of benefiting the evil players but in the sense of causing chaos to game state.
oh fuck what if we get gerrymandered overnight
that would be a fucking gross scum power
In post 33, tris wrote:what about this line, mastina?
"i will try not to create any obvious alignment information in these assignments (unless it is very funny)"
Because in this case it is indeed very funny. :P
When you see what role I have, you'll understand exactly why. :P
In post 31, mastina wrote:{Vaxkiller, Momrangal, mozamis} is going to be all town because they are going to naturally be inclined to scumread and heavily disagree with each other.
would they disagree only as town?
Hard to say, but there's no evil involved in them disagreeing and infighting with one as scum. That sort of disagreeing and infighting and paranoia and suspicion only qualifies as Evil if they are in fact all town.
eeeeeeh like i dunno, infighting feels evil to me regardless
yeah tbh, i feel like scum would want to take ocntrol of their blocs if possible and someone who stokes tvt bloc infighting should absolutely get a paddlin'
mozamis entry looks town but this is an illegal read and i'm not allowed to explain why because it would be a violation of site rules
In post 66, Tsutsu wrote:wait we dont have to vote in our blocks what?
probably not a faked dumb!town slip?
ower's response to gypyx questioning is good and i really dislike tsutsu's simping for tris here. the simping started out nai but now it feels like there's some agenda behind it
i dont really get gypix's angle tbgh
this is definitely momrangel being excited about not rolling scum with me for the third time in a row and means she is town
okay not lizing mozamis stuff now, just saying stuff without explaining why especially because my eyes dont see the same things
whtf did momrangel roll scum without me? grrr ower is super town
okay ower's point about anya just saying stuff and dabbing out is good VOTE: tris baaaa
In post 121, VFP wrote:VOTE: T3
No solo group for you.
Flea next!
hey t3 this is really fuckiong abritraty what ifd you talke dbaout why
In post 131, flow trap wrote:I thought that the Blocs switched around every round?
this could be a perspective slip from someone informed of a role that has this power
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:58 pm
by flow trap
In post 139, bugspray wrote:this could be a perspective slip from someone informed of a role that has this power
No, I just have real-life seer abilities
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:34 pm
by tris
In post 112, OutWorldER wrote:I don't see why it being the early-game should delegitimize the points I make, especially when the whole point of RVS and the early-game is to put out AI content to extrapolate from.
that's why i was voting for gypyx. i always like to join bandwagons in RVS because they often lead to something. but, i didn't yet see anything that pinged me in any way. that's why i initially force it. it is kind of NAI though. i emulate this behavior as scum too. the early game is where my townplay and scumplay are most similar. it's easy to mess around regardless of alignment.
what do you think of my behavior since then?
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@bug how did you arrive at a vote on me?
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i thought the whole point of the setup was that schadd gerrymanders the groups every day so as to cause maximum nonsense.
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bugspray maybe town.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:00 pm
by Anya
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tris maybe town
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:02 pm
by Anya
what was so perfect about the timingg outworlder
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:20 pm
by OutWorldER
Naked vote that came in the middle of a push and subsequent debate, at a time when the major voices of the thread were either defending Tris or out of the interaction entirely. Very easy for momentum to build on either side of that if votes start coming in, which at that early/RVS stage of the game is not unlikely. Being in that stage of the game also allowed you to pivot to any side or back out of the interaction entirely without controversy.
It's not something I can actually, in good faith, scumread you for because it is entirely possible, if not likely that it was just an RVS vote and my 5-dimensional gigabrain is just being hyperactive and overly paranoid but I like to spitball things like this regardless just to pull players into the game.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:22 pm
by Anya
ok you sound like town i'll sheep you to find the wolves
who we voting
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:27 pm
by OutWorldER
please do not sheep me my reads don't get good until Day 2.
I'm mostly waiting for the whole town to get here as well as certain interactions to happen.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:30 pm
by Anya
ok i'll be back to sheep you day 2
VOTE: momrangal
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:38 pm
by bugspray
VOTE: momrangel alright
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:54 pm
by bugspray
In post 141, tris wrote:@bug how did you arrive at a vote on me?
it was ower sheep 80% and like 20% me agreeing with ower
