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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:49 am
by JamesTheNames
Roughly 13 of the last 30 posts relate to .

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:50 am
by Ythan
Maybe you did. You shouldn't do that in the future. Everyone telling you that knows what they're talking about and newbie games are for learning things like this.

VOTE: Val89

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:51 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 126, Ythan wrote:Maybe you did. You shouldn't do that in the future. Everyone telling you that knows what they're talking about and newbie games are for learning things like this.

VOTE: Val89
Newbie games are also for experimenting.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:52 am
by Ythan
In post 127, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 126, Ythan wrote:Maybe you did. You shouldn't do that in the future. Everyone telling you that knows what they're talking about and newbie games are for learning things like this.

VOTE: Val89
Newbie games are also for experimenting.
I've told you the facts and whether you absorb them at this point is on you.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:52 am
by Dannflor
assuming you are town, you have made it easier for mafia to hunt down PRs, and if you are lying broke down any trust you will have with the rest of the town

furthermore, the game was already going, there was stuff to talk about. Why didn't you engage with the rest of the game first?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:04 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 129, Dannflor wrote:assuming you are town, you have made it easier for mafia to hunt down PRs, and if you are lying broke down any trust you will have with the rest of the town

furthermore, the game was already going, there was stuff to talk about. Why didn't you engage with the rest of the game first?
Are you implying the game develops better when there is only 1 thing going on, 1 thing to consider, or just because it was your push on Val89?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:06 am
by Dannflor
no, I'm not implying that

but it's a better alternative than you claiming for no reason, which is not good even if it "gets the game going"

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:08 am
by Ythan
In post 130, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 129, Dannflor wrote:assuming you are town, you have made it easier for mafia to hunt down PRs, and if you are lying broke down any trust you will have with the rest of the town

furthermore, the game was already going, there was stuff to talk about. Why didn't you engage with the rest of the game first?
Are you implying the game develops better when there is only 1 thing going on, 1 thing to consider, or just because it was your push on Val89?
Sure doesn't look like it to me looks like he's correctly telling you why you are objectively incorrect to claim right now.

Pedit yeah

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:10 am
by JamesTheNames
@Ythan why did you retract the vote on me by the way? Between your vote and your unvote my only posts was reiterating why I claimed, and me saying how many posts had to do with my claim.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:14 am
by Ythan
In post 133, JamesTheNames wrote:@Ythan why did you retract the vote on me by the way? Between your vote and your unvote my only posts was reiterating why I claimed, and me saying how many posts had to do with my claim.
The post in between clarified that you're probably just wrong and not trolling. I wasn't expecting you to repeat what you had said previously.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:15 am
by Val89
Why doesn't a troll simply repeat themselves?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:23 am
by Ythan
In post 135, Val89 wrote:Why doesn't a troll simply repeat themselves?
I think you on the other hand are being intentionally dense.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:26 am
by Val89
And I think you should answer the question rather than deflecting.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:27 am
by Ythan
In post 137, Val89 wrote:And I think you should answer the question rather than deflecting.
God to know fedora.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:27 am
by Ythan
Good to

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:35 am
by Val89
I might be legitimately accused of being many things, but I know dense isn't one of them.

I should take it then, that the answer to my question is abundantly obvious to every other player in the thread, and the reason why someone who repeats themselves is obviously wrong, and not trolling, is self-evident?

If I see evidence that is the case, then I am prepared to revisit my assumption here that you just pulled a reason for switching your vote out of your arse, and then got shifty because you don't have a good answer, but until then, I think your slot is as good place to start.

VOTE: Ythan

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:36 am
by Ythan
Welcome newbie enjoy your time on MS.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:41 am
by Leaven
In post 119, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 116, Dannflor wrote:you didn't do that to get the game going

why did you actually do it
You'll be very surprised by the answer.
Would it be possible to walk through some hypothetical answers for why you did it that would be surprising?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:45 am
by Val89
@Leaven: Do you think it's stupidly obvious why someone who is wrong rather than trolling wouldn't repeat themselves?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:46 am
by Leaven
In post 141, Ythan wrote:Welcome newbie enjoy your time on MS.
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but this read to me as back-handed insult. So please clarify - what's your intent here??

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:51 am
by Ythan
In post 144, Leaven wrote:
In post 141, Ythan wrote:Welcome newbie enjoy your time on MS.
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but this read to me as back-handed insult. So please clarify - what's your intent here??
No you got it.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:51 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 142, Leaven wrote:
In post 119, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 116, Dannflor wrote:you didn't do that to get the game going

why did you actually do it
You'll be very surprised by the answer.
Would it be possible to walk through some hypothetical answers for why you did it that would be surprising?
Sure. This bit isn't hypothetical. I did the same thing in my last game then got hammered from 0 votes to 5 votes within the span of about 4 hours before D1 ended due to time. I wanted to try it again. I won't comment further regarding that game as said game is ongoing.

Hypothetical answers:
From a mechanics point of view even town vs even scum, ie 6 town vs 2 scum, benefits town, I get conftowned by claiming and we get to a beneficial mechanical stage?

The first non-newbie game I read over Dannflor did this, and I wanted to try it.

If I make everythone think I look stupid with random claims and hard-tunnelling. I won't get killed during the Nights and can save the game D3 or D4.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:53 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 145, Ythan wrote:
In post 144, Leaven wrote:
In post 141, Ythan wrote:Welcome newbie enjoy your time on MS.
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but this read to me as back-handed insult. So please clarify - what's your intent here??
No you got it.
UNVOTE: Salsabil Faria
VOTE: Ythan

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:54 am
by Ythan
In post 146, JamesTheNames wrote:I won't comment further regarding that game as said game is ongoing.
Doing this just a little bit is not any less against the rules.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:55 am
by Ythan
In post 146, JamesTheNames wrote:I did the same thing in my last game then got hammered from 0 votes to 5 votes within the span of about 4 hours before D1 ended due to time. I wanted to try it again.
This looks like not playing to your win condition which is another equally serious rule.