Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:36 am
:thinking pose:In post 123, Galron wrote:Meg v Mastina
Cheeky v Mastina
Mastina stirring the pot.
Or all three scum.
That's it. That's the solve.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:41 am
Subject to WIFOM.In post 23, mastina wrote:We absolutely should.In post 19, MegAzumarill wrote:We should NOT claim any submitted preferences
The mafia might lie about theirs, but they are only 3/10 of the players. They can't prevent 10/13 players from telling the truth.
If we have players truthfully claim their alignment preference (without claiming PR/Vanilla preference), then we can narrow down the gamestate.
For instance, if we have 12/13 or so claim they submitted town preference, then that means that everyone who submitted scum preference probably got it and some of them lied.
In contrast, if we have 6/13 or so claim they submitted mafia preference, then that means that everyone who submitted town preference probably got it.
There's zero downsides to this. It genuinely can POE the game on D1.
People know I favour a scum roll. I submitted 2 things which were pro for whichever alignment I ended up being, and 1 anti-town thing.
I submitted town preference. I did not submit a pr preference.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:25 am
I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.In post 113, Taly wrote:Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.In post 98, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:07 am
Great. I've been trying to actively avoid rulespec and just use reactions for reads. :/In post 124, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'll wait for Titus' opinion before turning that vote into a tunnel though.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:14 am
This is not 100% accurate. The analysis is skewed towards those who preferred scum but doesn't lock them in. The threat of eliminating people who claim they prefer scum would possibly cause town to lie. I wouldn't have included that threat.In post 23, mastina wrote:For instance, if we have 12/13 or so claim they submitted town preference, then that means that everyone who submitted scum preference probably got it and some of them lied.
In contrast, if we have 6/13 or so claim they submitted mafia preference, then that means that everyone who submitted town preference probably got it.
There's zero downsides to this. I
However, there's zero reason to not out scum submissions. We can do some magic d2 or d3 with that.
I'll have more thoughts as well.In post 95, mastina wrote:For the record, I AM keeping a list of preferences, roles, etc., and I'll be sharing after everyone has chimed in.
I've not gone through the effort of developing proper reads yet but my initial thoughts are there's a high chance of 1-2 scum in {MegAzumarill, CheekyTeeky} here, so:
VOTE: CheekyTeeky
Can we do Meg first?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:15 am
Wait y'all didn't submit 6 roles?In post 127, CheekyTeeky wrote:I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.In post 113, Taly wrote:Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.In post 98, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:16 am
If you're actually town, you should realize that my posting throughout the work week is perfunctory, to avoid prods.In post 124, CheekyTeeky wrote:house is just a robot here
Tues-Thurs, I don't have a ton of time to gab.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:39 am
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:52 am
I meant your opinion on House lolIn post 128, Titus wrote:Great. I've been trying to actively avoid rulespec and just use reactions for reads. :/In post 124, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'll wait for Titus' opinion before turning that vote into a tunnel though.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:53 am
No I submitted 3 because I'm lazy and I thought I could be tricky if I rolled scum with true claiming.In post 130, Titus wrote:Wait y'all didn't submit 6 roles?In post 127, CheekyTeeky wrote:I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.In post 113, Taly wrote:Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.In post 98, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:54 am
Ok noted.In post 131, House wrote:If you're actually town, you should realize that my posting throughout the work week is perfunctory, to avoid prods.In post 124, CheekyTeeky wrote:house is just a robot here
Tues-Thurs, I don't have a ton of time to gab.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:47 pm
In my PT of course!In post 118, Greeting wrote:Anyway, I'm sceptical ofmastina's idea as I have no idea how she's going to compile all this
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:50 pm
We can, but I figured Cheeky would respond more to my pressure and be more cooperative than Meg would be from it, and I was equally willing to vote either, so that's why I went Cheeky first.In post 129, Titus wrote:Can we do Meg first?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:54 pm
Titus:
You haven't given us your preferred alignment or your mafia role picks, in spite of having said there's no downside to the latter.For the record, the only other player not having chimed in is ɀefiend (who hasn't posted yet).
Beyond that, Flea's stated alignment preference but not stated mafia role(s);
CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill are the only players refusing to do either a stated alignment preference or outting their submitted roles.
When both Titus and ɀefiend (or the slot) have chimed in, I'll share my compiled list along with some thoughts on my findings.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:55 pm
Wait nevermind I'm a dummy, Titus did, disregard that. 
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:58 pm
I was told I can submit up to three, at least one being town and at least one being scum.In post 130, Titus wrote:Wait y'all didn't submit 6 roles?In post 127, CheekyTeeky wrote:I was dumb and submitted 2/3 roles that could be either alignment which is saying too much already I guess. Good news is I got the 1/3.In post 113, Taly wrote:Idk man if people roleclaimed it heavily skews scum on their part unless they submitted that role for both alignment and aren't giving the full story which they likely shouldn't in this case.In post 98, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also I hope noone claimed their mafia roles because mastina is on a big ol' fishing trip today.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:59 pm
This post strikes me wrong. How can votes be desperate when there's nothing causing a reaction of desperation at this point of the game. It's like a discredit/shade two for one combo and clearly quite out of context thus disingenuous.In post 102, House wrote:3 way tie.
One of these wagons are on scum. Wouldn't be surprised if two are, considering the desperate votes on me.
I don't see the need for town to make exaggerated posts like this.
I also don't understand the suspicion on meg so if someone could use words that would be appreciated.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:59 pm
VOTE: MegAzumarill
(I do have initial findings which give me townreads but I can't share my townreads without tainting the results)
(I do have initial findings which give me townreads but I can't share my townreads without tainting the results)
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:02 pm
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear about what I meant.In post 136, mastina wrote:In my PT of course!In post 118, Greeting wrote:Anyway, I'm sceptical ofmastina's idea as I have no idea how she's going to compile all this
I didn't mean technicalities, I meant the method itself. Some players submitted town preference, some submitted scum preference. Some townies might have submitted scum preference. What if scums lie about scum preference and those townies who submitted scum preference didn't lie and simply didn't get it? This is what I'm sceptical about.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:04 pm
Yeah because scum are going to make a show of resistance instead of making something up to blend in. I've said what I need to about my role.In post 138, mastina wrote:CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill are the only players refusing to do either a stated alignment preference or outting their submitted roles.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:08 pm
If I need to say it, I always prefer town.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:29 pm
Yes mastina's reasoning is rubbish hence why I think she's scum. Like it would be useful information if it was a given that everyone would tell the truth but that's obviously not the case in this gameIn post 143, Greeting wrote:This is what I'm sceptical about.
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mafia. The information would be more useful to scum as they already know that most, if not all of the town would be telling the truth and could try to reverse engineer the possible town picks/generate a believable fake claim since they'll also have more info about the setup based on what's not in the set up and what roles mafia have.Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:33 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:39 pm
Should hammered townies reveal their town picks?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:40 pm
Only if they didn't get their first pick I'd think