Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:00 am
I should really open with "Man's town" more often then HUH
But seriously....this is kind of increasing my scumread on you. Why don't you talk about inutile, do you still think they're mafia?In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbhIn post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.
VOTE: DeltaWave
Why are you scumreading Ghandhi? Bit of a non-sequitur I know but I don't want to get into your improv stuff.In post 127, Frogsterking wrote:I had this one improv teacher who was pretty cool who taught us that the hardest lesson in improv is to learn to accept gifts.
that's funny, because you're looking more like town to me the more we talk. I'd say there's a decent 75% chance that inutile is mafia. signal-to-noise ratio is very bad, trying too hard w/r/t townclaiming, etc. reminds me of how I used to play a mafioso when I was new, very frantic. the 25% exception is if this user just plays like this all the time but I do not know the relevant meta.In post 126, furtiveglance wrote:But seriously....this is kind of increasing my scumread on you. Why don't you talk about inutile, do you still think they're mafia?In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbhIn post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.
VOTE: DeltaWave
It's okay, the improv stuff was for Asuka primarily rather than for you.In post 128, furtiveglance wrote:Why are you scumreading Ghandhi? Bit of a non-sequitur I know but I don't want to get into your improv stuff.In post 127, Frogsterking wrote:I had this one improv teacher who was pretty cool who taught us that the hardest lesson in improv is to learn to accept gifts.
A few things here, first regarding 51;In post 58, Frogsterking wrote: I actually think you've got me here and that everything you're saying in 53 is true.
I have three reasons mainly for not outing the scum slot yet:
I can tell you that I'm pretty sure I'm using spatial working memory to identify where to look rather than verbal working memory.
- I want them to post more before they become alarmed so that it will be easier to look for their partners on later days.
I want them to participate in my survey start and if I out my scum read on them first they probably won't want to do that.
I want to give other players a chance to find them without me spoiling it.
Serious vote?
Just walk me through your thought process here? Most of the posts confuse you (why is that scummy?) but you understand enough to say that their rationalising is weird? You either understand or you don't, it can't be both. Can you show some of their weird rationalising and explain why it's weird?In post 76, DeltaWave wrote: frankly most of it confuses me and it seems like lots of weird rationalizations. unless this user is normally on edge all the time, it looks bad
Well, you're seeing the game at the opposite end of the spectrum to me so we probably need to talk. All three of these are bad.In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.
Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.
VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi
this is scum. guillotine asap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGAk07qgf8
Happy to take the lock town read on yourself? Do you think you have been that townie?
Serious vote?
We're viewing the game almost identically, I like this. Just Frog being the outlier.In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:Here are some reads of mine.
Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:
Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile, Hoppip Town
Reads that aren't consensus (I think):
Nuclear Ghandhi Town, Mohab sus, DeltaWave sus
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energyIn post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
VOTE: Inutile
VOTE: DeltaWave
Hi Ausuka, I think you're town and this is a bad vote. Change it please?In post 121, Ausuka wrote:I'd also like Greeting to elaborate on their reads I guess
VOTE: furtiveglance
I like this best for now
This makes no sense at all and further intensifies my scum read on you.In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbhIn post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.
VOTE: DeltaWave
Why do Eir and Greeting influence your read here? They've barely done anything.In post 130, Frogsterking wrote: Once I saw Eir and Greeting both voted Ghandi I interpreted that as a sign that something was wrong. I reflected on why they may have done that. I realized that Ghandi is attempting to aggressively manipulate as many players as possible and that my initial Townread on them was naive. I believe Ghandi is either a manipulative Townie or a scum slot. In other words, I don't trust Ghandi regardless of their alignment, and I believe their alignment in this case may be scum, because even though it may be NAI for them to be manipulative, the way they're being manipulative in this game doesn't help them to collect AI information about other players.
RVS Vote. I already unvoted.In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Serious vote?
Yes.In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Do you think you have been that townie?
As for the first question, I'm pretty confident they have reads that are significantly better than most players and I'm hoping to take advantage of this to get a bigger and more accurate town core set up. I'm applying meta knowledge, it has nothing to do with anything they've done in this game.In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Why do Eir and Greeting influence your read here? They've barely done anything.
Can you show examples of Ghandi being manipulative please?
I mean I'm willing to try, BBT. My condition is that I want you to choose something more specific from Ghandi's iso for me to talk about.In post 136, Frogsterking wrote:And for the second question, if you can't read Ghandi's iso and see the intent to manipulate then no I can't help you sorry.
yeah sure. it's weird because it confuses me and it confuses me because it's weird. if I just started spouting gibberish you could call it weird even if it made no sense to you. not sure what your angle is here. e.g. the various walls of text inutile has posted.In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Just walk me through your thought process here? Most of the posts confuse you (why is that scummy?) but you understand enough to say that their rationalising is weird? You either understand or you don't, it can't be both. Can you show some of their weird rationalising and explain why it's weird?
call it a vibe. i expect mafia to act more like inutile and less like furtiveThis makes no sense at all and further intensifies my scum read on you.
Wisdom bomb:In post 139, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:But both Eir and Greeting have produced very little and you appear to just believe both are town and I'm wondering what's enabled you to get those reads?
I mean, you're saying he is being manipulative and I'm just asking you to show it? Why is that so difficult?
this is based, ngl
I missed this intially because I posted right after. I townread you for the progression on inutile, it looked natural. Frogsterking is making a lot of reads early on which I usually find towny. Inutile and Hoppip both just seem to have an innocent kind of energy, I can see their approaches to the game being from a town perspective.In post 120, Ausuka wrote:I'd like if you could elaborate on your townreads.In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:Here are some reads of mine.
Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:
Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile, Hoppip Town
Reads that aren't consensus (I think):
Nuclear Ghandhi Town, Mohab sus, DeltaWave sus
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energyIn post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
VOTE: Inutile
VOTE: DeltaWave
Can you elaborate on your thoughts on 83 as well? I really do not see what you're seeing there
I just thought Inutile was excited about playing, that's the vibe I got.In post 129, DeltaWave wrote:that's funny, because you're looking more like town to me the more we talk. I'd say there's a decent 75% chance that inutile is mafia. signal-to-noise ratio is very bad, trying too hard w/r/t townclaiming, etc. reminds me of how I used to play a mafioso when I was new, very frantic. the 25% exception is if this user just plays like this all the time but I do not know the relevant meta.In post 126, furtiveglance wrote:But seriously....this is kind of increasing my scumread on you. Why don't you talk about inutile, do you still think they're mafia?In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbhIn post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.
VOTE: DeltaWave
btw, someone (I forgot who - it's a page or so back) misunderstood why I was sussing inutile. it wasn't because mafia was plural or anything. it's that the whole "let's come together as town, I'm one of you, let's get those evil mafias" is a sus thing to say overall, especially early game. maybe later on when there are some flips or lots of evidence that's a decent thing to say but combined with everything else, inutile just seems like a mafioso on a sugar high.
I have played withIn post 121, Ausuka wrote:I'd also like Greeting to elaborate on their reads I guess
Have you played with inutile before?In post 144, furtiveglance wrote: I just thought Inutile was excited about playing, that's the vibe I got.
I am happy that BBT is now voting with me, but I don't townread this post at all. I've found that responding to other people's reads/comments and following up like this is one of the easiest things to do as mafia, because a lot of the time town players' reads/comments on the game don't make a lot of sense and you can look towny as scum by criticising that.In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright, caught up. Stuff following;
A few things here, first regarding 51;In post 58, Frogsterking wrote: I actually think you've got me here and that everything you're saying in 53 is true.
I have three reasons mainly for not outing the scum slot yet:
I can tell you that I'm pretty sure I'm using spatial working memory to identify where to look rather than verbal working memory.
- I want them to post more before they become alarmed so that it will be easier to look for their partners on later days.
I want them to participate in my survey start and if I out my scum read on them first they probably won't want to do that.
I want to give other players a chance to find them without me spoiling it.
1) Why would you trust a town reads reads so early into a game?
2) This feels like an attempt to pocket Ausuka
As for 58, this is a bad post in general. The first point about not wanting scum to know you're scum reading them - at this point about 5 players had posted anything of note, you were one of them and you town locked the other two (possibly three?) so there really weren't many players left who it could have been.
Other two points are fluff, especially third. Unless you're looking for potential mindmelds, but meh, not a fan of this at all.
Serious vote?
Just walk me through your thought process here? Most of the posts confuse you (why is that scummy?) but you understand enough to say that their rationalising is weird? You either understand or you don't, it can't be both. Can you show some of their weird rationalising and explain why it's weird?In post 76, DeltaWave wrote: frankly most of it confuses me and it seems like lots of weird rationalizations. unless this user is normally on edge all the time, it looks bad
Well, you're seeing the game at the opposite end of the spectrum to me so we probably need to talk. All three of these are bad.In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.
Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.
VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi
this is scum. guillotine asap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGAk07qgf8
Happy to take the lock town read on yourself? Do you think you have been that townie?
Serious vote?
We're viewing the game almost identically, I like this. Just Frog being the outlier.In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:Here are some reads of mine.
Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:
Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile, Hoppip Town
Reads that aren't consensus (I think):
Nuclear Ghandhi Town, Mohab sus, DeltaWave sus
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energyIn post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
VOTE: Inutile
VOTE: DeltaWave
Hi Ausuka, I think you're town and this is a bad vote. Change it please?In post 121, Ausuka wrote:I'd also like Greeting to elaborate on their reads I guess
VOTE: furtiveglance
I like this best for now
This makes no sense at all and further intensifies my scum read on you.In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbhIn post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.
VOTE: DeltaWave
Why do Eir and Greeting influence your read here? They've barely done anything.In post 130, Frogsterking wrote: Once I saw Eir and Greeting both voted Ghandi I interpreted that as a sign that something was wrong. I reflected on why they may have done that. I realized that Ghandi is attempting to aggressively manipulate as many players as possible and that my initial Townread on them was naive. I believe Ghandi is either a manipulative Townie or a scum slot. In other words, I don't trust Ghandi regardless of their alignment, and I believe their alignment in this case may be scum, because even though it may be NAI for them to be manipulative, the way they're being manipulative in this game doesn't help them to collect AI information about other players.
Can you show examples of Ghandi being manipulative please?
Did I ask Frogsterking a question that you wanted to ask him, or did you want to ask me a question?In post 132, hutmeil wrote:UNVOTE: Furtive
I had the same question as him for Frog which I TR him for.
I've played with similar players.In post 146, DeltaWave wrote:Have you played with inutile before?In post 144, furtiveglance wrote: I just thought Inutile was excited about playing, that's the vibe I got.