All Greek To Me - Over

[Alpha]

no, gamma is 1-shot bulletproof only.

[Alpha]

btw - did Iota ever give the flavor for the sleep ability?

i don't thnk so.

[Kappa]

no, gamma is 1-shot bulletproof only.

Ahhhhhh - OK, nvrmind all that then.

I think I trust Gamma, but I'll go back and check the votecounts to make sure.

[Max]

This is sorta weird; I guess it confirms part of Gamma's claim (can't vote). But shouldn't Upsilon and Iota still have their votes out? I thought unvoting wasn't possible without voting someone else.

Err... You are correct. Iota and Upsilon are still voting Alpha.

[Max]

EBWOP Iota is voting Gamma...

[Kappa]

OK, here is a deeper look at Gamma's story:

First, its claim:

i am a 1-shot nk immune townie w/ a twist.

once an attempt on my life is made I can't vote unless it's the hammer from then on (read back and see how it makes sense)

it was used night um, well the night before the case on Mu,. remember i said there was a an explanation for the missing kill - it was because I was targeted. I was considering fake claiming but yeah.

Here's what it said immediately following these events:

Omicron (6): Theta, Mu,

Gamma

, Beta, Pi, Iota
Iota (1); Kappa
Pi (1); Omicron
Mu (1): Alpha

Not Voting: Upsilon

10 Alive, 6 To Lynch

Omicron - Standard Mafia Messenger - Lynched Day 6

So it's Night 6. See you then... if you're lucky *muahahahahaha*

Gamma clearly had it's vote intact at this point (Day 6)

Pi - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 6

Kappa and Iota are still asleep and aren't responding to being awoken, how odd. You decide that you should bring them through to the meeting room in case they awake.
You decide you won't lynch them while they're asleep.

6 Awake, 4 To Lynch

Only 1 kill that night:

Hmm.

I won't be voting for a while as I need to work this out.

Leaning towards mu being blocked being responsible for the lack of kills. However we can still be *pretty sure* emperor were on the counterwagon, so that's okay. Iota was the prime candidate and is dead.

I'm going to go back through the night kills and match them up with what we know. Actually brb lambda said he blocked mu twice (i think)

Hints at its vote restriction. Although, it does then immdiately refer to Mu being blocked as the reason for lack of NK. Then, again:

Roleblocker.
I can use Lambda calculus to make people's abilities fail.
I blocked noone N1. Blocked Mu the rest of the days.
Have to run for now.

Cha-ching!!!!!

Gamma uses this to drive the Mu lynch, knowing full well (if we believe its claim) why there was no kill the previous night - and it had nothing to do with Mu being blocked. But then:

It's not convenient at all, I'm pretty sure I know exactly why there was only 1 kill last night.

Okay, explain.

I'd be inclined to not explain, actually.

Kinda vague, but hints at the real reason (i.e., bulletproof Gamma was targeted).
Then we have some more hints:

mu/alpha are both good lynches. beta is too probably.

consider my FOS as my vote for the moment so I'll

FOS MU

Another hint at the vote restriction.

vote mu

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Anyway, remember mafia you guys need to crosskill ;D

Alpha looks a good bet for scum as does Beta. One of the sleeping players is probs scum (iota) too.

Only votes when it's the hammer vote.

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So, I'd like an explanation from Gamma about why it initially thought Mu was blocked N6 was the reason for lack of an NK. Clearly, they had read whatever night PM they got, since it seems it knew about the vote restriction.

What does everyone think about Gamma's claim? There is clearly proof that its vote is restricted following Night 6, but I don't really see how that make it more likely protown, especially with the out-of-the-gate comments about Mu. Correct me if I'm missing something, though.

[Iota]

If we didn't already have an SK down, I'd say it sounds like SK, actually, with the NK immune stuff.

[Kappa]

If we didn't already have an SK down, I'd say it sounds like SK, actually, with the NK immune stuff.

I could see that power belonging to mafia GF, too. Standard Mafia GF?

[Alpha]

i believe gamma's role, and i incline to think gamma is town.

yes, that can be power of a GF.

[Alpha]

If we didn't already have an SK down, I'd say it sounds like SK, actually, with the NK immune stuff.

flavor claim now.

[Iota]

Who?

[Alpha]

Who?

you and upsilon.

[Gamma AGTM]

hints at its vote restriction. Although, it does then immdiately refer to Mu being blocked as the reason for lack of NK. Then, again:

The roleblocker is dead here, so this makes no sense for me talking about THAT night's kill. I was talking about the earlier night's kills where mu was blocked.

Gamma uses this to drive the Mu lynch, knowing full well (if we believe its claim) why there was no kill the previous night - and it had nothing to do with Mu being blocked. But then:

Well duh? Lambda was dead by that point so couldn't have blocked the previous night kill.

What does everyone think about Gamma's claim? There is clearly proof that its vote is restricted following Night 6, but I don't really see how that make it more likely protown, especially with the out-of-the-gate comments about Mu. Correct me if I'm missing something, though.

Corrected I think? I was pretty obviously not talking about that night's kill, I already had the explanation for that night's kill.

There's clearly no reason to doubt my claim, as it's obviously true. If you want to question my alignment fair enough but giving all the killing power in this game (skitzo/2 mafia's/sk) a bulletproof townie does make a lot of sense I'd argue.

nice to see iota chiming in with..useful stuff.

[Gamma AGTM]

If we didn't already have an SK down, I'd say it sounds like SK, actually, with the NK immune stuff.

I could see that power belonging to mafia GF, too. Standard Mafia GF?

I think if I was standard mafia I could have probably got someone apart from Omicron lynched, in all honesty.

That's pretty WIFOM but I think it's at least worthy pointing out.

[Kappa]

Alright, that makes a lot more sense, Gamma.

At this point, I'm pretty sure Iota is scum (due to lying about sleep abilities) and that that is who I want to lynch. Any reasons we should lynch someone other than Iota?

Iota's flavor claim will be pretty pointless, IMO. Upsilon's might be worth hearing, but I don't think it'll make me want to lynch someone else.

As for who the other scum is... well, I don't want to throw out WIFOM needlessly so best spare that for tomorrow, I think.

@Max: Can we get a corrected votecount, please?

[Alpha]

i also think we should lynch iota.

and now i'm thinking about my vig kill... any suggestion?

[Alpha]

still waiting for upsilon's flavor claim and explanation about how cop enabler works.

[Kappa]

Alpha, why did your other kills not go through?

No one else has claimed roleblocker, so you're either scum or the scum have a roleblocker(s).

Is a Standard Mafia Messenger (Omicron) a roleblocker? This would mean the Emperor Mafia Messenger can still block someone...

That would also mean there were 3 roleblockers in the game (if the scum teams are symmetrical in abilities). Haven't see that in too many games, but I have seen it before (usually with larger scum teams and larger games). With that many blockers I'm not surprised that there was a lack of kill on so many nights, since there are technically 4 killing factions.

Hmm, I'll have to go back and try to decide whether Iota is Emperor or Standard.

btw, if scum do kill on alternate nights, Alpha's claim is hella scummy.

[Kappa]

Hmm, I'll have to go back and try to decide whether Iota is Emperor or Standard.

OK, done - I'm pretty sure Iota is Emperor mafia.

[Kappa]

Well, if this really is 2/2/1 I can say who the scum teams are. Hopefully that's not the case, though, but gg if it is.

[Upsilon]

still waiting for upsilon's flavor claim

Once I figure out what the hell my flavour means. I'm confused.

and explanation about how cop enabler works.

It lets cops investigate.

[Kappa]

How does it work, though. We know what it means.

[Upsilon]

How does it work, though. We know what it means.

From what I can gather from my flavour, If I die, something happens to the quarks, which makes it impossible for Cops to Investigate.

That's the best I can get.

[Kappa]

OK, that makes some sense.

Gamma, what is the flavor for your 1-shot NK immunity?

[Gamma AGTM]

very very little flavour in my role pm. it just says that i'm unstoppable and will only be weakened on the first kill attempt which results in my vote loss or w/e