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meh. Internet, I asked you some questions a few pages ago that you never answered. Why do you expect people to answer yours, IS?

You're using 'confirmation bias' wrong. If I had confirmation bias, I would have entered this game thinking you were scum, and then interpreted your actions to match my view. Which I didn't. I looked at your entire actions, today, and put down a vote. Your reasoning is jacked up.

↑ Internet Stranger wrote:Oh hey, there you are. You saw all them questions I asked Amrun? Why dont you start answering them too CSL?

Fine.

Like, why are you blatantly bandwagon jumping?

I believe that your faint flailing is proof enough

Or, What was so wonderful about Ludi's lies about me that makes you think you can get away with that blatant bandwagon jump?

Well, if you vote me, it's be OMGUS, so you couldn't possibly get away with that.

Going further, why dont you think that Ludi is scum CSL? If you say "gut feeling" too, ill pull my hair out over the BULLSHIT.

He's not scummy, but he isn't townish neither. He's a fat grey blob in a sea of null.

I mean look at Ludi. All he is doing now is playing the confirmation bias game. You wouldnt want to be wrong, do you? He is playing on your fear that you could be wrong. Look at all that false confidence he has. If this was a live game, he would be shitting his pants about now.

Confirmation bias? lolwut?

My stuff in bold.

↑ Magister Ludi wrote:meh. Internet, I asked you some questions a few pages ago that you never answered. Why do you expect people to answer yours, IS?

You're using 'confirmation bias' wrong. If I had confirmation bias, I would have entered this game thinking you were scum, and then interpreted your actions to match my view. Which I didn't. I looked at your entire actions, today, and put down a vote. Your reasoning is jacked up.

Not really. Confirmation bias doesn't require you to enter the game thinking someone's scum. It requires you to see one or more thing you interpret as scummy, then get into the mindset of being that player's attacker and look at everything they do through the prism of 'Does that make sense for scum?' IE, accusing someone you're attacking of 'flailing' because the attack made them angry, whereas you might take a more neutral view if it was someone another player was attacking (COULD be flailing, but does this player get angry as town? Maybe they think the case against them is BS?)

The reasons against IS are terrible. (His play reminds me entirely of his hydra's play in MWTH, where they were run up day one on playstyle stuff). In particular, the acting like he's sure he's nailed scum but no-one will listen to him. Again, the coasting stuff was untrue, and everything that follows is just caused by him getting pissed off at that.

Well if I think someone is scum, that means first I've examined their isolation. I then decided I think there are more things likely to come from scum than town, other wise I would have read him as town and not voted him.

Yeah, If someone, A, whose alignment I didn't have a read on attacked another player, B, who I didn't have a read on, I would probably be pretty neutral. But, If I had a scum read on player B, who then turned around and attacked A out of nowhere after A attacked him, that would confirm my suspicions against B.

And most scum are going to say the case against them is BS. Or not true for reasons x,y,z. The initial reasons weren't terrible. The reasons based on his play since then aren't bad either. He's not at all being run up on day one here over playstyle. unless you mean playstyle to mean every post he has ever made in this particular game. If so, then, yes.

Hey guys, I found my anchor in the sea of apathy.

Let's lynch CSL as fast as humanly possible.

We're down to a finish line?

↑ CSL wrote:I never felt that Palisade was town until he started posting walls.

Then people refused to switch from palisade to oversoul...

The wagon on Palisade was scumdriven.

Unvote; Vote: Oversoul

I distanced myself from the mislynch very well, look how good it was.

GreyICE, are Darox and CSL scum together?

↑ Magister Ludi wrote:Well if I think someone is scum, that means first I've examined their isolation. I then decided I think there are more things likely to come from scum than town, other wise I would have read him as town and not voted him.

Sure, but what you've done then is taken his reaction to your attack, and attributed to it the scum motivation, when the town motivation is perfectly plausible and fits IS' meta (gets angry when attacked as town).

Yeah, If someone, A, whose alignment I didn't have a read on attacked another player, B, who I didn't have a read on, I would probably be pretty neutral. But, If I had a scum read on player B, who then turned around and attacked A out of nowhere after A attacked him, that would confirm my suspicions against B.

Well, whether or not you thought his counterattack was scummy or not would depend on whether you think the initial case was valid or not. Attacking someone for making valid scumhunting points against you is scummy; attacking someone for attacking you based on bullshit is not. The distinction lies in whether your initial attack on IS was valid or scummy. It was scummy.

And most scum are going to say the case against them is BS. Or not true for reasons x,y,z. The initial reasons weren't terrible. The reasons based on his play since then aren't bad either. He's not at all being run up on day one here over playstyle. unless you mean playstyle to mean every post he has ever made in this particular game. If so, then, yes.

I'm saying the case on him is BS, though. The coasting accusation you made against him wasn't true. He then attacked you for making an untrue assertion about him, which is perfectly reasonable.

Sorry for disappearing, I'm having an insane week.
Will try to make a proper post before then.

LudiScum STILL doesn't have anything. He is essentially stonewalling on his "because I said so" bullshit. What's next Ludiscum, hold your breath until you turn blue? You know for a FACT that you made up a bunch of BULLSHIT to make a crapass accusation on me it has failed Ludi, all it has done is allowed me to see how scummy YOUR play has been as well as allowed us to see how silly and scummy players like Amrun and CSL can be. Being all staunch without any good FACTUAL or even fucking TRUE points just makes you look horrible. Maybe you're trying to emulate me or do what I do when I catch me countless scum, but what you're doing is putting on a cape and expecting to fly like Superman. All you're ending up doing is falling off the roof and onto your face.

In the meantime, if there aren't votes on LudiScum, I may need to jump on CSL for blatant bandwagon jumping, horrible explanations for that fact and of course, self preservation.


Oh and Fonz, I think I had two scum pegged in that Hydra game too. That was such bullshit too. I got railroaded by the scum.

Eh, I feel better about IS now... Nero seems a possibly viable wagon anyway and I'd MUCH rather do that.

Hmmmm. That last Ludi post gives me much stronger townvibes than anything he's done to date.

Also, CSL votes, yay! Anyone like to explain what changed since I first made that case about a week ago though?

↑ zMuffinMan wrote:
It does, when you realise that Nero's scum meta is to tunnel townies until he absolutely

must

mention his teammates to avoid suspicion.

totally untrue.

↑ Darox wrote:Ok so, Nero is pretty scummy and

his reasons for suspecting MoS & muffin are basically complete crap

.

Tell me if this sounds scummy to you.

I think player X is scum but I'm not going to vote for my scum read.

Waits awhile.

OH LOOK!!! There's a bandwagon on my scumread now so now I'll vote.



And muffin wants me dead b/c I suspect MOS.

I forgot about this game. Prod dodge. Reading stuff tomorrow. Also,


VOTE: Nero

Seems to be the cool thing to do now.

↑ Magister Ludi wrote:GreyICE, are Darox and CSL scum together?

Do I care?

So,... yes or no?

-_-

ML, explain relevance now. Darox is not a wagon, is not in danger of being a wagon, and is not cleared by power role results unless I missed something.

So.... what's rolling through the little hampster wheel?

Wait... this is literally the first time you've mentioned Darox all game.

Explanations now, Ludi.

You followed your biggest scum read onto the same wagon.

Now answer the question

I don't care.

Yeah, I also would like an explanation for that, Ice.