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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:24 am

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Well. 3 people are lying. That's right, I said THREE.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:46 pm

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Well, tell me how that's stupid Hez. I actually had you as town as well. X.X

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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:27 pm

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It's not theatrics, it's math. More in the AM - though I'm hoping there are some posts coming.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:54 pm

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vijay2vasandani wrote:Well, tell me how that's stupid Hez. I actually had you as town as well. X.X


This is like PARANOIA mafia.

Maybe I should just start fakeclaiming as town.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:31 pm

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If anything it is more likely that Hez is town, who in their right mind would claim that knowing there is already a character from that show that flipped. Certainly WIFOMy though.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:34 am

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PV is V/LA until tonight.

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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:42 am

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PV is back. Anybody have anything else to say before we start voting?
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:43 am

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Why the hurry?

I want PV to post.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:45 am

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I'm not in a hurry. I also want PV to post. That doesn't mean the rest of us can't say anything.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:33 am

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Back from Limited Access. Already caught up, but will be posting thoughts later today.
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:39 am

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Anyway Yates explain the lying thing?
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:31 am

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I'd like to hear the three people lying thing. This is especially interesting to me since I don't think you are indicating you're lying, and I got mine straight from my PM, so you think EVERYONE ELSE is lying.
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:24 am

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PeregrineV wrote:I'd like to hear the three people lying thing.

Well, likely two of you are scum. AND there is a Town PR left. So, by my math, that's three.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:04 am

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Yates wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:I'd like to hear the three people lying thing.

Well, likely two of you are scum. AND there is a Town PR left. So, by my math, that's three.


How do you know this? Everyone claimed VT.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:52 am

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HezLucky wrote:
Yates wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:I'd like to hear the three people lying thing.

Well, likely two of you are scum. AND there is a Town PR left. So, by my math, that's three.


How do you know this? Everyone claimed VT.


He's going to claim PR. Wait for it....
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:20 am

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PeregrineV wrote:
HezLucky wrote:
Yates wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:I'd like to hear the three people lying thing.

Well, likely two of you are scum. AND there is a Town PR left. So, by my math, that's three.


How do you know this? Everyone claimed VT.


He's going to claim PR. Wait for it....

I claim.... VT.

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How are we supposed to catch scum with just a Vig and a Doc? It makes no sense. Unless someone can rationalize a 12:2 scenario with no investigative roles [and a swingy Vig role - I might add] as balanced, I'm not buying. 11:3 with a cop and a vig? Yeah, I can accept that as balanced.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:34 am

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Even if your theory is true, what would possess you to even voice that opinion as town? That kind of speculation only opens the door for a potential scum delayed fakeclaim.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:01 pm

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Yates wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:
HezLucky wrote:
Yates wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:I'd like to hear the three people lying thing.

Well, likely two of you are scum. AND there is a Town PR left. So, by my math, that's three.


How do you know this? Everyone claimed VT.


He's going to claim PR. Wait for it....

I claim.... VT.

This is a 14 player game.
Benmage is the only scum flip.
Fate was vig.
RBD was doc.

How are we supposed to catch scum with just a Vig and a Doc? It makes no sense. Unless someone can rationalize a 12:2 scenario with no investigative roles [and a swingy Vig role - I might add] as balanced, I'm not buying. 11:3 with a cop and a vig? Yeah, I can accept that as balanced.


A standard game is 9:3.
Assuming this is town sided at 10:3.
Assuming you give town 2 PRs, one of which could conceivably help scum (vig kill town), then it's not unbalanced at all.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:12 pm

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Scott Brosius wrote:Even if your theory is true, what would possess you to even voice that opinion as town?
Why would I keep that to myself as Town?
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:19 pm

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PeregrineV wrote:A standard game is 9:3.
Assuming this is town sided at 10:3.
Assuming you give town 2 PRs, one of which could conceivably help scum (vig kill town), then it's not unbalanced at all.
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:22 pm

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PeregrineV wrote:
Yates wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:
HezLucky wrote:
Yates wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:I'd like to hear the three people lying thing.

Well, likely two of you are scum. AND there is a Town PR left. So, by my math, that's three.


How do you know this? Everyone claimed VT.


He's going to claim PR. Wait for it....

I claim.... VT.

This is a 14 player game.
Benmage is the only scum flip.
Fate was vig.
RBD was doc.

How are we supposed to catch scum with just a Vig and a Doc? It makes no sense. Unless someone can rationalize a 12:2 scenario with no investigative roles [and a swingy Vig role - I might add] as balanced, I'm not buying. 11:3 with a cop and a vig? Yeah, I can accept that as balanced.


A standard game is 9:3.
Assuming this is town sided at 10:3.
Assuming you give town 2 PRs, one of which could conceivably help scum (vig kill town), then it's not unbalanced at all.

Alright, so TWO people are lying. Who are the liars?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:06 pm

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Is there a reason for this Yates?
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:16 pm

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Obviously there was. First we need to determine what we are working with. It looks like 3 VT's vs 2 scum. Would have been nice to have some cop results but woulda coulda shoulda.

Now the game begins.

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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:33 pm

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Well I'm still uncomfortable with Hez claiming Ted, and really I see no reason for that 3 lying thing. Seemed like a test the waters and then back out thing.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:10 pm

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Yates wrote:Obviously there was. First we need to determine what we are working with. It looks like 3 VT's vs 2 scum. Would have been nice to have some cop results but woulda coulda shoulda.

Now the game begins.

I will not be voting for PV so make your arguments.


This isn't because you are, um, scum with PV, is it?
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