TM2012: Scummies 2011.5 - Let the credits roll!

[BBmolla]

I just see this coming and it depresses me.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YES GOOD GAME OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE WE WON THAT AFTER THAT LYNCH ON OUR OBV SCUM PARTNER DAY 1

God damnit Molla, it was fucking obvious when he bla bla bla...

Give me a bit to brace myself for this.

Also Reck that post isn't really that unreasonable, you literally both have to be scum from his point of view.

[T-Bone]

It's not BB and Zar because they haven't hammered me. This isn't town vs. town, it's town vs. scum. In this case it's town vs. 2 scum. Reck went all in too soon on the vote with Slandaar, and is trying to bully you into voting his way.

[xRECKONERx]

My favorite part of LYLO is when scum get overeager and force themselves into calling certain people scum and just having to shove whatever fits into that case to make it believable.

[T-Bone]

I wouldn't know.

You mantained that you can't read Reck, BB. Doesn't that bother you at all? Let's do it, Slandaar now and Reck tomorrow (or vise versa).

[BBmolla]

But I have a townread on Slandaar

He's just a derp

[Zar]

You know what, screw that. I honestly don't see how T-Bone can't be scum here.

Vote: T-Bone

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 5, Votecount 7 End of ??? votecount

DeasVail (1) - T-Bone

T-Bone (3) - DeasVail, xRECKONERx, Zar

Not Voting (1) - BBmolla

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch or no-lynch.

Deadline:

Wednesday, July 4th at 15:30 EST

Countdown:

(expired on 2012-07-04 15:30:53)

Scene to come shortly.

[Lost Butterfly]

So Mina was too busy singing songs and being lazy to write a scene. So she was like 'Yo faraday, write a 3rd shitty scene in a row'. And he was like 'Kay, will do'

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The final 5 looked at each other. They realised they were the final 5 left alive in Team Mafia. That was super cool. So then they decided they'd lynch T-Bone.

Was THAT super cool?

T-Bone,

Mafia

and holder of Scummie, was lynched Day 5.

Night 5 begins. It will last 24 hours

. (expired on 2012-06-30 21:18:47)

[Lost Butterfly]

So. What does Deasvail have to say?

What's that? Deasvail's not here? What the FUCK? Not Deasvail. Anyone but him.

Oh wait, Slandaar replaced him. My bad.

Oh wait, he's actually dead. Weird. Thought he already died in Almost Normal.

Slandaar,

Town

and holder of the Scummie, was killed Night 5.

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 6, Votecount 0

Not Voting (3) - BBmolla, Zar, xRECKONERx

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch or no-lynch.

Deadline:

Tuesday, July 10th at 10:30pm

Countdown:

(expired on 2012-07-10 22:30:53)

[xRECKONERx]

sup

i hate endgames

[xRECKONERx]

Molla wasn't on the scum lynch

Zar was the last second "welp guess I gotta do this" hammer vote

even wash.




BBmolla was fourth on the D1 scum wagon

Zar was off the scum wagon

slight town point for BBmolla



BBmolla was on the mislynch wagons for Magua & theamateur

Zar was on the mislynch wagons for Magua & KK

even wash.



BBmolla received a "fake scummie" that nobody else can corroborate

slight scum point.

which leaves me where i started

[xRECKONERx]

Slandaar kill benefits both as scum, I think

I do think that Zar's play yesterday around the T-Bone versus DV lynch looks more like scum than Molla's play around the lynch

It's close, I think right now before doing any rereads or heavy questioning/analysis, I'd be slightly more likely to vote Zar than Molla

[BBmolla]

Bleh. I was going to say I'd have no killed as scum here, but I guess the Slandaar kill makes sense with me as scum due to him thinking I'm scum.

I'm fairly certain Zar is scum, but I don't want to rush things.

Do you think me and T-Bone would have reason to make up a fake scummie?

[BBmolla]

You know what, screw that. I honestly don't see how T-Bone can't be scum here.

Vote: T-Bone

You need to explain the "can't be scum here." What lead you to that conclusion?

[xRECKONERx]

Bleh. I was going to say I'd have no killed as scum here, but I guess the Slandaar kill makes sense with me as scum due to him thinking I'm scum.

I'm fairly certain Zar is scum, but I don't want to rush things.

Do you think me and T-Bone would have reason to make up a fake scummie?

I don't think you'd have a reason to make it up as any alignment, which is why I'm thinking it's true.

[Zar]

N1 - Fonz, The Scummie Holder of Best Newbie (1A) Dies - N1 Cop Only.
Judges of 1A: Reck,

Quilford

,

T-Bone, Captain Ajax

,

MoI

N2 - Quilford, The Scummie Holder of Best IC (2B) Dies - JailKeeper
Judges of 2B:

TheAm, hito,

BBmolla, and

Magua:

N3 - hito The Scummie Holder of Best Replacement (1C) Dies - Bodyguard
Judges of 1C:

KK,

BBMolla,

DeasVail:

N4 - MoI dies

N5 - Slandaar (DeasVail) dies.

As Slandaar noted, the death of the holder of the Scummie JailKeeper (awarded on D2) over the holder of the Bodyguard Scummie (which was awarded on D1) points to the scum knowing who had each of those scummies and deciding which was more harmful than the other.

The only scenario in which this is possible is the one in which BBMolla is the provider of the inside information.

If Reck were the last scum, he would have needed to make a lucky (albeit somewhat educated) guess between the living players to go for Quilford on N2. It also means that the scum would have all been on Group 1A, and that voting Fonz had nothing to do with an ability to trample the judging process, since they would have chosen that scummie by voting block majority. This also means that Reck-Scum would have had to go lucky for a second night in a Row killing another Scummie holder on N3. That is also the only scenario that would explain BBMolla getting a Fake Scummie that neutralizing his Professor Mafia scummie, since Reck was a judge of the group that granted the award and would have known who was the holder.

On the other hand, Molla claiming to have received a Fake Scummie disabling abilty could come from scum using a known role information or some BS gimmick to provide an excuse as to not use his Role in a Pro-Town manner.

[Zar]

BBMolla: how do you explain that the deaths in N2 and N3 happened to be to scummie holders among categories you awarded?

[Zar]

do you have any theories?

[Zar]

You know what, screw that. I honestly don't see how T-Bone can't be scum here.

Vote: T-Bone

You need to explain the "can't be scum here." What lead you to that conclusion?

Already explained my PoV here. The Death of MoI pointed to the scum knowing the remaining Scummie was not a threat.

[Zar]

For the list of recipients given by T-Bone in the QT for Scummie 2A, he only mentioned Reck and Molla as his list of potential holders.

[Zar]

correction. He did mention hito as a canditate to get the scummie too.

[BBmolla]

BBMolla: how do you explain that the deaths in N2 and N3 happened to be to scummie holders among categories you awarded?

Because most likely they were night killed and given scummies for the same reason, they were both really town.

It's also possible scum have some unknown ability that let's them know what other judges did or something. I donno.

In addition, why the hell would I frame myself in such a way? I'm not stupid. Well. Not THAT stupid. If I was scum here I'd have kept Slandaar alive for LYLO, then blamed him for knowing the scummies. Basically what you've done here Zar.

Already explained my PoV here. The Death of MoI pointed to the scum knowing the remaining Scummie was not a threat.

Uh, how would the mafia know the other scummies?

[Zar]

BBMolla: how do you explain that the deaths in N2 and N3 happened to be to scummie holders among categories you awarded?

Because most likely they were night killed and given scummies for the same reason, they were both really town.

So your theory is that Quilford was targeted because he was least likely to be partnered to Ajax? Why not MoI, then?

Yet specifically the dead player was happened to have the Jailer scummie, which now turns out to be the most powerful role town could have had. Assuming the scenario in which there was scum within 2B, the kill would have preferred to rid themselves of a known town-role.

It's also possible scum have some unknown ability that let's them know what other judges did or something. I donno.

In addition, why the hell would I frame myself in such a way? I'm not stupid. Well. Not THAT stupid. If I was scum here I'd have kept Slandaar alive for LYLO, then blamed him for knowing the scummies. Basically what you've done here Zar.

That's WIFOMish. Also, Slandaar suspected you. And besides, Slandaar/DV couldn't have known who the recipient of the Jailer Scummie was because he was not in the judging group that awarded it.

BBMolla. Considering you really received a Fake Scummie to theorize:

If I were scum, how in the world would I have known you, of all people, would receive a Scummie and choose you over the many other potential awardees with even more town cred to give you a Fake Scummie that would neutralize the ability you would receive? That would have been a big ass Hail Mary shot.

Anyone NOT in 2C could have been the recipient of that Scummie. The only way that somebody could have pinned you as the awardee there is if somebody within the group that gave you that scummie was scum.

Already explained my PoV here. The Death of MoI pointed to the scum knowing the remaining Scummie was not a threat.

Uh, how would the mafia know the other scummies?

All the other scummies had been outed.

[xRECKONERx]

Will check in on this and give my thoughts soon. Had a meetup today, and am now drinking heavily.