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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:52 am
by Nero Cain
lol. That's kind of hard to believe that Fery wouldn't notice the difrence in user name.
vote:Selk
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:32 am
by Selkies
Don't be silly.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:40 am
by Nero Cain
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:40 am
by Belisarius
In post 1250, Nero Cain wrote:That's kind of hard to believe that Fery wouldn't notice the difrence in user name.
Not at all, it's very subtle.
The difference in avatar is not so subtle, but viewing that as a scumtell is pretty fatuous.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:41 am
by Selkies
Reading that game and not noticing an underscore was dumb, not silly.
And it's not why you think we are scum. You had your vote on us yesterday.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:22 am
by Selkies
if it helps at all, i was the one who bought the game up to fery (this is orc just btw)
also, we think Nero is town because of similar meta'ing done last night
(this is mostly me again)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:37 am
by Selkies
In post 1249, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Makes less certain but still good odds of scum, if you didn't walk. Let me get a few things nailed down and then I'll reveal what's going on.
How is this going?
Mara, name your targeted player last night please.
Yeah, this.
Also, this could be mylo if there are 3 scum. But, orcinus and I are wondering about a dreamwalker SK - which would suck for the DW SK if eveyrbody who can dreamwalk is taking Beli's advice.
We're thinking it may be mass claim time. If we do mass claim, I want demon to go first.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:41 am
by sword_of_omens
In post 1255, Selkies wrote:also, we think Nero is town because of similar meta'ing done last night
can you please explain this in better detail?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:48 am
by Selkies
look through any one of nero's scum games
he's really transparent
1). forced use of flippancy and a complete 180 in tone
2). very demotivated. replaced out twice, scumhunts and tries to help far less than he is in this game
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:55 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1253, Belisarius wrote: In post 1250, Nero Cain wrote:That's kind of hard to believe that Fery wouldn't notice the difrence in user name.
Not at all, it's very subtle.
The difference in avatar is not so subtle, but viewing that as a scumtell is pretty fatuous.
The avatar has nothing to do with it. A simple click of our GCBC's topics would tell you this is wrong. This is like the dumbest shit ever.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:18 am
by Selkies
I don't know how orcinus found the thread. He IMed me the link and I read it. We were going over it shortly before the site crashed.
Nero, explain how this could be anything other than a dumb mistake? If we knew we were isoing someone else, what would possess me to post it? On what planet would I expect no one to notice?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:33 am
by Selkies
In post 1259, Nero Cain wrote: In post 1253, Belisarius wrote: In post 1250, Nero Cain wrote:That's kind of hard to believe that Fery wouldn't notice the difrence in user name.
Not at all, it's very subtle.
The difference in avatar is not so subtle, but viewing that as a scumtell is pretty fatuous.
The avatar has nothing to do with it. A simple click of our GCBC's topics would tell you this is wrong. This is like the dumbest shit ever.
you are actually the most ridiculously easy mislynch to push right now
it really is a pity we're not scum this game
-o
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:05 am
by sword_of_omens
wait...are you saying Nero is demotivated as town, or scum?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:10 am
by Selkies
As scum
- f
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:40 am
by sword_of_omens
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:47 am
by Selkies
I did not. IIRC the scum game I scanned was more recent than last summer.
I read his iso in that game. Do you think this game looks similar?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:29 am
by sword_of_omens
his play in 90's as scum was far from demotivated
while it did start in June, it went on for 6 months...so it was a very long game...
although i will say that Nero got lynched about a 3rd of the way though iirc...
i was mainly curious about your statement because the timing of it seemed odd..
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:33 am
by Selkies
orcinus and I were both posting at roughly the same time earlier today, and in fact it was orcinus who posted 1258, which I think is the post you were asking about.
What seemed odd about the timing?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:55 am
by sword_of_omens
the statement of a town read on him seemed out of place for me...
i can touch on it and explain later, however,
i'm wondering if it might not be a bad idea to mass claim, after all...
i would also like to hear from MsM first on who she targetted last night...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:01 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
After clarifying some things with the mod, I've got quite the issue.
We need to massclaim, Demon first is fine.
My role results cannot be correct unless at least one of the claimed PRs is telling a lie, so a massclaim sorts out which one.
~BC
PS: Yo swords I read that game you linked. While it does match up with what I'm seeing here, it's not super conclusive enough.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:17 pm
by Selkies
In post 1268, sword_of_omens wrote:the statement of a town read on him seemed out of place for me...
i can touch on it and explain later, however,
i'm wondering if it might not be a bad idea to mass claim, after all...
i would also like to hear from MsM first on who she targetted last night...
orcinus and I have different reasons for thinking he's town. My reasons are primarily about a game we both played as hydrae and both had scum reads on each other. Unlike this game, I was out of the gate very aggressive (might have had something to do with my hydra partner). In this game, orcinus did his usual RVS thing and I stayed out of the fray for the most part until Ghostlin role claimed.
Nero's day 1 play in this game was very similar to that game, and my suspicion bled over because (as I think I mentioned on day 1) I associate his style of play in both games with scum - narrative control and linking up his scum read with whoever another player suspects.
I eventually decided in this game that the narrative control stuff is likely town behavior in Nero. And the difference in my gamestyle between the two games would be adequate reason for him to suspect me in this game since I was town in the other game.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=28429
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:13 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 1260, Selkies wrote:Nero, explain how this could be anything other than a dumb mistake? If we knew we were isoing someone else, what would possess me to post it? On what planet would I expect no one to notice?
'cause it accomplishes a big ball of nothing. Its nothing more then a "hey guize! Look @ us we soooo pro-town" and it doesn't really have any negative consequences.
I think a large part of the problem is that Orc was not in that game and that its not listed on GCBC's topics list so it looks like Orc attempting to dig up bullshit. The only other thing I can think of is that Mara told Orc (and Mara was confused) and no one bothered to fact check it.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:15 pm
by Ms Marangal
I love that game, The Sugar Cain hydra was a fun one.
also, I protected Amrun last night so I think Scum have a Strong-man or something to bypass my protection.
Pedit: Nero...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:16 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 1261, Selkies wrote: In post 1259, Nero Cain wrote: In post 1253, Belisarius wrote: In post 1250, Nero Cain wrote:That's kind of hard to believe that Fery wouldn't notice the difrence in user name.
Not at all, it's very subtle.
The difference in avatar is not so subtle, but viewing that as a scumtell is pretty fatuous.
The avatar has nothing to do with it. A simple click of our GCBC's topics would tell you this is wrong. This is like the dumbest shit ever.
you are actually the most ridiculously easy mislynch to push right now
it really is a pity we're not scum this game
-o
how does this make any fucking sense as a reply? It doesn't.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:23 pm
by Nero Cain
don't Nero me you scummy pineapple.
Also, STFU SOO. I'm town and you'll have to get over me making fun of your boyfriend.
Scum is probs Selk/Mara/Beli
Lets all lynch from Selk/Mara.