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But I do expect him to flip town, that's not a secret, is it?

Why?

Because 1200

I'll repeat my question. Why is NS flipping town?

Because the scumteam is enomis/Safety/Amrun/Elyse and there are not 5 scum.
If he somehow flips scum, that means I'm wrong for one of the above. But I don't think so, so I expect him to flip town.
Get it?

So PoE?

For NS? Yeah.

K that's my point bye

I don't see any point.. If you wanted to insinuate that I'm wrong for accusing you about PoE because I use it myself, it's bullshit because I don't call people confscum because of PoE. I expect someone to flip town because of PoE. Complely different.
bye!

In post 1242, Elyse wrote:I have townreads on Amrun,

lol bye

In post 1242, Elyse wrote:
@Grim
Explain your vote on NS after AP voted him.

Also you are being so wishy-washy with your NS stance. One minute he's town, the next he's scum, the next he's a compromise lynch, the next he's useless. Remember what I said about NS/Grim not working? Yeah, that's out the window since he's obviously just going with the popular opinion.

I'm not wishy-washy.
He is a complete nullread. Is this surprising to you? He posted 11 times in total. The kind moderator just told is there more than a hundred posts a day in this game. How you can have a clear read on him is beyond me, but that fact you're so certain he's scum, could actually mùean he is and you're bussing your useless partner for some towncred.

It's true I haven't been very fixed to my vote. That mainly had to do with my reads on the other people in the pool, especially Wisdom. Nobody Special has always been a target of compromise. I called his inactivity scummy, yes, but I guess what I should have said was "anti-town". AP then proceeded to tell me it's NS's meta anyway, so not much is to be gotten from that. Whenever I had a scumread in the lynchpool, I voted that read. Whenever I felt there was a lack of alternatives, I voted NS.

This is also where I stand now. I've got strong townreads on AP and Venmar. Wisdom I'm still not sure, but I let him AtE get to me and see where it gets us. Somehow I'm feeling more confident about him town again, but it goes in waves. It depends on him acting dickish towards me and bringing up wacky scenarios. I have the impression the feeling is mutual.

It is, but now I'm very confident I have a grip on the scumteam so I feel good about you again.

In post 1258, Wisdom wrote:I don't see any point.. If you wanted to insinuate that I'm wrong for accusing you about PoE because I use it myself, it's bullshit because I don't call people confscum because of PoE. I expect someone to flip town because of PoE. Complely different.
bye!

No it's not. How is determining someone's alignment using PoE scummy in any way? It's not. So stop acting like it is.

@Grim
WHY DID YOU VOTE NS AFTER AP DID? You were previously voting AP, a scumread of yours, and then he voted NS. Why did you join your scumread on someone you said was town? That literally makes no sense to me. Why? 1. I don't vote townreads. 2. I don't vote with my scumreads. 3. I don't listen to who my scumreads tell me to vote for.

Yet you did all of that.

In post 1262, Elyse wrote:No it's not. How is determining someone's alignment using PoE scummy in any way? It's not. So stop acting like it is.

Considering people "confscum" based only on that is though.

@Elyse's 1262:

1. I didn't vote a townread. I just explained you my postion on NS. So I did not do that.

Point 2 = Point 3, you're inflating your "case".

Could you point me where I did that? I don't remember.
But I explained you what happened in general in 1260 whenever moving my vote to NS, so that's probably what happened here as well: I dropped my scumread on AP and did not see a scummy alternative in the lynchpool at the time.

No it's not. And enomis and SD have done nothing to make them look town either. It's not like "Well this was good, but PoE says they're still scum."

P-edit: I gtg but yes I'll explain it later.

In post 1264, Grimgroove wrote:

I dropped my scumread on AP

and did not see a scummy alternative in the lynchpool at the time.

In post 886, Grimgroove wrote:

AngryPidgeon is my preference

, but not enough to put him at L-1 already. Elyse and amrun on his wagon aren't exactly reassuring either.

oh no here we go again

Like I said, I don't exactly remember.
But ok, so I explained it in 886: AP wasn't an option for the time because it would put him at L-1 too soon, so I went for the always present alternative NS, to see where that would lead to.

But Elyse's point stands that you voted who your scumread was voting.

Yes.
I am doing that now, as we speak, as well.
And so are you.

I don't see the problem or the importance of that point.

Because we don't have a better alternative, while you had. Your scumread was in the lynchpool.

He was a preference out of the lynchpool, but not strong enough to put him at L-1, which should lead you to conclude the scumread was not as strong as you're making it out to be.
So I didn't have a better alternative,b ecause I did not wish to put him at L-1, and at the time I believed my vote was better behind the name of a lurker than simply nowhere.

Off to bed!

In post 1220, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1200, Wisdom wrote:Anyway.
enomis/Safety/Amrun/Elyse.
With Grimgroove or NS if any of them is wrong.
We lynch NS and we have the jaguars and the monkeys fight.
Are there disagreements on this?

I want this answered by everyone that is not in those four.

Take Enomis out, replace with NS, and we're on the same page.

That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if everyone agrees that Jaguars-Monkeys challenge each other tomorrow. NS goes today anyway.