In post 1250, BBmolla wrote:I think RC's behavior and setupwise it makes more sense if we're both town.
keep goin
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:17 pm
by Mitillos
@BB: Except the setupwise thing is meaningless. Why would it make more sense for both of you to be town? The setup is closed. And like Luna said, keep going. That's not really enough to justify a townread, so why are you so eager to read RC as town?
@Shadow: You traitor! You were tunneling me all this time and now you move on to Majiffy? Why? WHY?
Joking aside though, why is Majiffy scum? Aside from your previous attack on Diabolik. You called Majiffy scum on D2, but I didn't see your reasons.
@KMD: Why does Rail deserve your vote? Especially if you're not caught up, yet.
Finally, please just do what I said if I die tonight. If I don't die tonight, I can fill in my reasons.
^I find it highly unlikely RC would pull this crap as scum and more likely his strong stances are indicative of him being town.
He called me scum because he believed that the town claim from day 1 was a fake claim cause it was "bastard" and specified sane cop, meaning I was the partner because I "knew to specify that." This is not RC trying to vote me for a bullshit reason, this is RC legitimately trying to read the game and outguess the game.
I donno if this makes any sense, I think RC's reasoning is a whole hell of a lot more likely to come from town.
I also think the odds of a mod making two neighbor cops not town is low personally, especially with what we've been given. Town, as far as I can tell at the moment, doesn't really have jack shit, and I feel more than likely us and our non-sanity was central to the setup. To accidentally normalize a scum cop and then to have him claim and be confirmed as so by his neighbor... seems extremely detrimental to the town.
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:14 pm
by PeaceBringer
In post 1250, BBmolla wrote:I think RC's behavior and setupwise it makes more sense if we're both town.
I think they are both town and need to look at those pushing this...
Mitillos, you are both scum. Dia kept on avoiding my questions about you, and stated a dis-intent to follow us onto you, but when I asked him why he didn't respond. I asked Jiffy the same thing, and by now, he has had loads of time to give me the answer I want, and he still doesn't give it to me. I have seen townjiffy try and work with his town-reads, not do a hot job at it, but he tries but there isn't a hint of that here
I think he's more dangerous than you though, and I like taking out the more dangerous scum first. why don't you bus him?
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:39 pm
by Mitillos
Can't bus. I'm in the uninformed majority.
In any case, it's already been established that Majiffy buses like a professional buser busing from a bus on the last day of busing of a week-long busing festival in busland. If we really were scumbuddies, don't you think he'd have at least given a read on me, possibly agreeing with your own, rather than blatantly ignore you?
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:54 pm
by DeasVail
I'll make a proper post tomorrow.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:23 am
by Rail Tracer
prodge. not gonna be doing anything here for about 19 hours or so.
so you really believe that SK was scum and dropped the negative utility in 1st post and that the subsequent claim by which ever of that slot put stuff out is all a lie?
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:42 am
by ooba
Luna, are you going to finish the rest of your reboot for the other 5 players?
I'm going to take a step back and re-read day two.
Wow. People who need to need Shadow's case should read D2 again.
- At post 920, SP asks a pointed question to Dia: "and speaking of him, Dia, what do you think of Militillos so far? why did you drop him from your initial list of suspicious people?"
- This reply from Dia was non-commital "yeah he is flying too low.. for sure 1/2 scum ae lurking."
- When pressed for details by Shadow again, Dia goes "who is dropped from my list?"
Dia doesn't get a chance to reply since he's replaced. Shadow again asks his replacement Maj about Mit. Maj says he doesn't read the case but votes Nani.
I'm slightly torn here as it is a very powerful link between the two of them but I liked SK on D1 and thought Dia was very townie on D2.
However, I'm willing to vote Mit.
- A lot of questions give me the vibe of someone who wants to look like he's active and scum hunting without doing so. A lot of posts addressed at RC\BBM, some of which asked for answers already available.
- Weak-ish reads. His D2 scummy candidate was mnem and other scum possibilities were {Nani, Pere, Peace} which is kinda weird because it's obvious that Pere and Peace were not scum together.
- When trying to spot his D3 suspicions, I noticed this - "@KMD: Why does Rail deserve your vote? Especially if you're not caught up, yet." - but he never questions Maj for doing the same on D2 when voting Nani. (Add one more link to the Maj-Mit pairing)
Unvote. Vote: Mitilos
If he flip scum, I'll reconsider voting Maj. Also, with 881, if Mit flips scum, I guess I was wrong about BBMolla.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:16 am
by ooba
*People who need to understand Shadow's case should read D2 again.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:43 pm
by Kmd4390
Mit, ISO me for that answer. Shouldn't take long.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:03 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I have an idea.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:21 pm
by Mitillos
@Kmd: So, it's based on a single thing he said? Granted, it wasn't a good thing, I agree. Lining up a lynch like that is not pro-town. But then, if he wanted to make that push, would he have killed Pere overnight?
@Everyone: Speaking of which, why did Pere die? Powerful roles (investigative, protective etc.) aren't confirmable. So, one would expect confirmable roles to not be powerful and therefore not dangerous to the mafia. I even suggested fruit vendor as a confirmable role in post 763, because it's the only obvious nightly confirmable role I can think of. So, this nightkill makes no sense, in terms of his abilities. Any thoughts?
I am very frustrated right now, because my role imo has a greater than 50% chance of being useless, but it could possibly be useful, and it is influencing my reads, so what I wish I could find out more than anything else is whether or not I can just treat my role as some lulzy gimmick that can be ignored.
Ironically you're the only lynch I'd feel comfortable going for right now.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:52 pm
by DeasVail
People I definitely don't want to lynch I guess:
Dante
Rail Tracer
PeaceBringer
Ooba
Kid A
RadiantCowbells
Majiffy
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:59 pm
by DeasVail
Also, RC, can you give us any insight into why you are so quiet when it comes to explaining your BB read?