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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:20 am
by anorway
Deadline: (expired on 2014-02-11 18:00:00)

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Vote Count 4.4

[L-4] Thor665
[L-4] BBmolla
[L-4] EspeciallyTheLies
[L-4] aptil
[L-3]
Lucky2u
: Smudger
[L-3]
Smudger
: Lucky2u
Not voting (4): Thor665, BBmolla, aptil, EspeciallyTheLies

Forgot about this, whoops.

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:55 pm
by Thor665
In post 1248, Smudger wrote:Kn answer to Thor 's question, I will, why dont you?
Because I'm not sure who scum are and it would be interesting to me to test two things.

1. If you are all talk about voting Aptil, or if you are serious.
2. If an Aptil with 2 votes on him gets quicklynched.

I thought what I was trying to do was really quite obvious - why are you asking me why wouldn't I vote Aptil...it's not like I've claimed him as a major scumread or anything.
In post 1249, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Thor - what I mean is that my gut is winning against numbers here regarding aptil. I also don't like how pushy smudger is being, as though he just really wants a lynch, yet he had to be convinced that his only two scum reads, by his own logic, must be the last two scum.
Did he do this? When? That sounds kind of wonky, I'd like to see the post(s) in question.

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:56 pm
by Thor665
In post 1250, anorway wrote:Votecount
I feel lied to ;)

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:13 pm
by Lucky2u
Smudger, just so I am clear. You think the two possibilities are either me and Aptil scum or Thor and BB scum. Can you explain why those are the only two combos that work from you as town perspective?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:18 pm
by Smudger
To be clear I believe very strongly that BB is telling the truth, I have no reason not to believe it. This is based on general feeling through the game in regard to BB and the DP/Thor slot, mores so now Thor is in the game. Ok I agree his approach is somewhat straight forward and blunt but so? Don't get me wrong I am not disregarding the fact that BB and Thor may both be scum but I do not see it. With regard to the ETL, she remains a strong town read for me and again she has cleared Zebe, who we know was town, in fact her post about "now being a VT so my job is done" sort of sold it to me TBH.

ETL has asked why I am pushing for a quick lynch. I am not I am just saying it as I see it. I will lynch either Lucky or Aptil today, they should both flip scum as I see it. I know I am town I believe I have good reads on the rest of the players. Scum sit in the Doc pool, that leaves Lucky, Aptil and myself. obviously based on what I know and feel my PoE leaves you (lucky) and Aptil.

ETL you raise the question that my two scum reads must be the last two scum, yes I knew that and did not need that pointing out to me, I think you will see I did not explain myself properly, this has been a cast iron case in my mind for today and a strong suspicion yesterday, the Boro flip confirmed it for me.

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:41 pm
by aptil
v/la till the 4th
. Absolutely no time .

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:43 pm
by Thor665
If you are town I hope you feel bad about your performance here.
If you are scum - well played.

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:01 pm
by aptil
Look man, if you want me to replace out i will. I am not scum here . It's just that i am working for 14-15 hrs a day , so can't login here . I have got up at 5.30 today to make that post .

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:26 pm
by Thor665
Did you have the ability to make the commitment to the game when you signed up for it?
Because if no, then why did you ever sign up?
And if yes, then why am I having to listen to your work schedule complaints?
It's a game, I'm here to play it, I prefer to play it with people who are also choosing to play it. If that's a problem for you then, yes, you should replace out. If it's not then yes, you should play the game and stop making excuses. You're the one who said you could make the commitment, not me, and if you think it's unreasonable for me to expect you to live up to the commitment you chose to make then please explain how that works because I disagree with you rather strongly on that point. I'm pretty sure a lot of us work long work days and schedules, I know I do, but I either make time for games or scale back in the amount of games I am in, and I would consider it uncool to use a busy day or two as an excuse. It's not like your lack of contribution was different over the weekend or prior to this long day, so unless you're working 15 hour days every day for the past eight days then something is a little wonky here, and if you are working that then what the heck are you doing trying to play mafia?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:29 pm
by Thor665
Also, I'm not even sure where you're coming from getting in my face about it.
If you are town, and let's presume you are, do you think you're playing well and to your wincon and helping your other town teamates?

Because if the answer is 'yes' Wooosh!
And if the answer is 'no' then you should well understand my frustration with what you are currently doing and shouldn't be getting uppity with me when I point out that it's harmful to my wincon. You should be agreeing with me.

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:03 pm
by Smudger
WTF, he is scum. If you don't want to take my word for it based on what I have said before, look at the ISO again. how many posts of content are there? how often does he sheep or agree with others in the game? His push on Boro was more a small lean with not much to it. Its been basically an active lurk from his post one to now.

VOTE: Aptil

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:07 am
by anorway
Prodding BBmolla.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:35 am
by Thor665
@Smudger - looking some stuff over, I think you're scum. Is there any real town evidence for you?

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:35 am
by Thor665
Also, I will admit, I'm starting to think Aptil is just really bad town.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:38 am
by BBmolla
Here

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:40 am
by BBmolla
Why do you think Smudger is scum Thor?

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:57 am
by Thor665
Beard.

What does it matter to you at this stage?

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:58 am
by Thor665
Heck, apparently you think Smudger is scum, so...shouldn't you kind of be on board with this thought process?

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:19 am
by BBmolla
I am, I'm just doing that thing where you make people say everything they're thinking

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:20 am
by BBmolla
Mostly because I want validation on my thoughts that he is scum

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:36 am
by Thor665
For me a lot of it is the vote counts and the flips.

[L-3] Does Bo Know: Zebe, DoctorPepper, Smudger, Cheery Dog

At this point the above wagon is;

Confirmed town being voted by: Confirmed Town, Thor (who is considered confirmed), Smudger, and Confirmed Town.

I mean...that just looks iffy. Here's the competition;

[L-3] Cheery Dog: EspeciallyTheLies, Mr_Blonde, Lucky2u, Kalimar

Confirmed town being voted by: Unknown, Town, Unknown, and Scum.

Lucky moved from Cheery to DBK - so if he's scum then he...what, decided he didn't like being part of the uber scum push on the scum infested Cheery wagon? Meh, not really buying that, nor that the wagon was so heavily scum peopled. Doesn't quite add up.

Also, I'm pretty convinced ETL = town now.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:53 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
There's been a death in my family and I don't have time/attention for this right now. V/LA until Saturday. If this is too much, feel free to replace, but I will try to check in a few times at least this week.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:23 am
by Thor665
In post 1187, Thor665 wrote:Well, almost assuredly at least one scum in
ETL
/Lucky/BB.
Hurm...so...also need to puzzle out the Lucky/BB situation.
One of those filthy scumSmurfs is a filthy scumSmurf.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:24 am
by Thor665
@BB - please justify why I should think you're town?

Also, you think Aptil/Smudger is the scumteam, yes? So, you tend to believe no scum bussed Kalimar the lurky scum buddy? How do you get to that conclusion?

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:29 am
by Thor665
@ETL - depending on your situation an explanation of BB=town would be nice to see. If I can get that sorted I'm probably down with the idea of lynching Lucky/Smudger.