Open 560: Tit for Tat (Game Over, 4/12 alive)

[uctriton00]

Explanation of Night 2 and Julatorium's force replacement

The game was sent into night with two open slots, the TSO slot and the Justin Playfair slot.

1. Xfd chose to kill the Justin Playfair slot, irregardless of who was replacing into it.
2. Scum chose to kill Xfd.
3. neil said Lemniscate was interested in an open slot.
4. notscience fulfilled my replacement request and chose the TSO slot.

At this point, the Justin Playfair slot did not need to be replacement, so I just let Lemniscate have it by default (and sent her a role PM just as a formality, to credit her for offering to replace. This role PM was never picked up though so I just deleted the role PM a few days later).

Julatorium asked who the two replacements were, for meta purposes. I said that we will find out on the next day phase. Julatorium made a point saying that scum need to know who the replacements are, in case they were going to meta them for any reason. I replied "scum didn't seem to care who the replacements are", and that's what tipped of Julatorium that the replacement slots are likely not scum. Julatorium voluntarily resigned, because they now had too much information. LlamaFluff replied to the siutation, and said that Julatorium was indeed correct, and would be given credit as a neutral survivor in any case because this was moderator error, not player error.

[T S O]

I hate to be critical immediately, but that was depressingly bad.

[Tammy]

TSO was and is obvtown, therefore NS is too. And scum have a rolecop, So what if we picked up on her JK tells day 1?

I was surprised no one picked up on this scum slip.

GG scum.

[Krystal Bald]

yup.

[T S O]

If only the Vig had actually gone on who we told him to n1, the game could have been over d3.

[T S O]

But really? You lynched my slot? You know, the one who got Elmo lynched in the most non-bus-like push ever?

ns wasn't even particularly scummy.

[Moonlight]

I'm usually the kind of guy that blames himself to a fault. I have ridiculously harsh expectations from myself, and it's very rare for me to blame teammates for a loss.

This time though, I can't help it. I'm going to criticize some of you, as well as give credit where I believe it's due. I welcome everyone to criticize my play as well, I want to get better.

@notscience:

You managed to replace into a slot that looked Town as fuck and turn it into a huge question mark with your laziness. There is a reason I limit myself to 1 game at a time; if I did too many, I would become as dispassionate as you. Your naked vote on insanity disgusted me despite it being right. It was as if you had nothing to comment on, and I believe I gave you plenty of room to interact with me. What a waste of potential. The silver lining in this is that now I know I can be a good IC, because I cannot imagine doing worse than you.

@hephaestus:

I wish you were as fiery as your avatar. You were the only clear Townie in LyLo and you should have taken the initiative instead of me. I don't understand why you voted notty without even providing your reasoning. Weren't you aware he already had a vote? Did you not care? Or did you think you couldn't be wrong?

@N_M:

I cannot for the life of me understand how I was the only one scumreading you in LyLo. TSO himself was asking for your head before he replaced out, yet no one seemed to give a fuck. Our interaction had me sold you must be scum, so I don't know how you brainwashed the rest, but good job regardless!

@insanity:

You were awesome to play against and you faked Town uncertainty beautifully. If it wasn't for your early townread of N_M, I don't think I'd have become confident that you're scum with him. Kudos!

@neil:

You, sir, have become my prime example of something I've always believed very strongly: experience means nothing, and what one learns from it is not necessarily true. Enough said.

That's all that comes to mind, excuse my bitterness. >_>

[T S O]

I don't have many problems with the above.

I'm not sure I'd have got insanity on d3 anyway because I didn't think Elmo was bussing, but I would have caught up to him the day after.

Let me quote something.

[T S O]

Still prefer Insanity for reasons previously stated. Will vote Elmo in (expired on 2014-07-18 16:00:00) if insanity wagon isn't re-invigorated.

how about now

Okay fine

VOTE: Elmo

idk why but that vote makes me feel dirty

still though

"I prefer this wagon."
"I prefer my wagon."
"Oh okay, vote: Elmo!"

:/

[T S O]

I'm aware I'm acting like a spoiled brat and I'm about to stop but with Elmo dead I felt I'd set you guys up to coast home fairly easily.

hephaestus. jesus. did you read the game?

[Not_Mafia]

Thanks to uctriton for hosting.

Not a very deserved win. If it wasn't for all the replacements we would have lost this hands down.

TSO was and is obvtown, therefore NS is too. And scum have a rolecop, So what if we picked up on her JK tells day 1?

I was surprised no one picked up on this scum slip.

GG scum.

That was intentional, it was meant to frame NS as partner, I was also surprised no one picked up on it

[T S O]

I also didn't understand why Moonlight wasn't basically conftown in LyLo.

[Not_Mafia]

The "we" was meant to refer to me and TSO, now I can see it just looks like "we"=scum

[T S O]

NM, did you pick up on Mala crumbing?

[Juls]

So insanity would not have survived with us in the game. But I doubt we would have ever figured out Not_Mafia.

[Not_Mafia]

NM, did you pick up on Mala crumbing?

I didn't notice any explicit crumbs but her general play day 1 screamed PR

[Tammy]

I was going to question insanity early day one when I finished catching up but got distracted.

Seriously, if you don't know how to read me in the first place don't pull dumb as shit reaction tests. You don't know what you're doing or looking for so all you end up doing is causing a distraction and pissing me off. And it especially doesn't help if I'm already suspicious of you. Also telling me you don't know what I'm catching up on when I haven't read the damn game is annoying.

[T S O]

So insanity would not have survived with us in the game. But I doubt we would have ever figured out Not_Mafia.

So, together, game over?

I actually think so.

[Tammy]

The "we" was meant to refer to me and TSO, now I can see it just looks like "we"=scum

Ah.

Also thanks to ucitron for running it and sorry for replacing out.

[Riddleton]

I think N_M played exceptionally well. Insanity was a little obvious though.

And sorry for being inactive, by the way. I'm aware the tons of replacements killed the game for town.

[notscience]

But really? You lynched my slot? You know, the one who got Elmo lynched in the most non-bus-like push ever?

ns wasn't even particularly scummy.

sarcasm=scum apparently

[Juls]

So insanity would not have survived with us in the game. But I doubt we would have ever figured out Not_Mafia.

So, together, game over?

I actually think so.

My other head still couldn't call you town but I was pretty sure.

[notscience]

@notscience: You managed to replace into a slot that looked Town as fuck and turn it into a huge question mark with your laziness. There is a reason I limit myself to 1 game at a time; if I did too many, I would become as dispassionate as you. Your naked vote on insanity disgusted me despite it being right. It was as if you had nothing to comment on, and I believe I gave you plenty of room to interact with me. What a waste of potential. The silver lining in this is that now I know I can be a good IC, because I cannot imagine doing worse than you.

1) I thought I'd have the patience to finish reading and didn't

2) I'm not dispassionate, I just never finished reading so I didn't particularly care

3) So a right vote in lylo disgusts you? undeserved reachouts disgust me too!

4) What did you want me to comment on? The weather?

5) Yes, because a lylo reachout leaves great room for reachout and definitely doesn't make me think buddy!

6) That's fine, I was a shit IC anyways because I drew scum

[notscience]

I was going to question insanity early day one when I finished catching up but got distracted.

Seriously, if you don't know how to read me in the first place don't pull dumb as shit reaction tests. You don't know what you're doing or looking for so all you end up doing is causing a distraction and pissing me off. And it especially doesn't help if I'm already suspicious of you. Also telling me you don't know what I'm catching up on when I haven't read the damn game is annoying.

yeah tammy was really town lol

[T S O]

reading LyLo, the worst bit was when Moonlight figured the whole game out, reached out to ns, who I think also knew, AND THEN HEPH IMMEDIATELY DERPVOTED WITHOUT REASONING

*clicks trigger*