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It's a weird way to toe around the rules, I don't see someone stretching a case on someone they know is town doing that.

↑ ActionDan wrote:Shurg.

I don't really know where to go from here

Titus or Muffin kind of looks promising imo.

Well. . Yes

Could always go SKOT

↑ POWERFUL TOWNIE wrote:I think Xisis claim is a load of garbage and should be lynched but eh.

(I'm ambivalent, so eh.)

↑ TheAdrienC wrote:I'll trust your claim unless something comes up.

This guy's totes still scum, by the way.

Oh, and between SKOT/Xisi, def. at least one scum, near-assuredly SKOT 'specially given the counterwagon on him near the end of D1 that didn't fully materialize.

↑ ToastyToast wrote:

vezokpiraka

--ActionDan, Anatole Kuragin, Slandaar, Xisiqomelir, Titus, Dr Pants, ReallySexyDudes, POWERFUL TOWNIE(LYNCH)

Xisiqomelir

--vezokpiraka, mastin2, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, BBmolla (L-4)

Sharpest-knife-on-tree

--zMuffinMan, TheAdrienC, Messiah Complex (L-5)

BTW, this prob means that one of my townreads is wrong. Anatole prob-scum, but Dan/Slandaar not out of the ruling, either. Same with Xisi/Titus.

I'll need to compile a revised readslist.

↑ Dr Pants wrote:well I officially suck, so I no longer get to make decisions

Join the club.

The time surrounding D2 was my screwup, you got yours.

Now we move on.

(That being said, totally told you so on both vezok AND Salamance. )

RSD, can we have a paraphrase of the content in the neighborhood QT?

Okay, so here goes nothing.

3. BBmolla<--BBMolla's been a decently-strong townread of mine the entire game. The townread from AP helps here, too. Ika liked him as well. It's nothing strong, just general things, but it's enough.
8. BlueBloodedToffee/Titus<--Controversial opinion: Titus is town. I say this in large part thanks to the ika read; ika I KNOW has a good ability to read Titus, and her killing him when he has a townread on her simply doesn't make much sense at all.
11. BooKitty/zMuffinMan<--I realize I should have a much firmer grasp of zMuffinman, but I've slacked off. Everything there to form the right read is present; I simply haven't managed to do so. Just consider him town until I tell you otherwise.
10. Messiah Complex<--Let's just say he needs another very hard, long look. I THINK he's town, but I'm not absolutely sure about it. Like Slandaar, actually kinda feel like tabling a more final read.
9. Slandaar<--I'm tabling my Slandaar read for the time being. Consider him mild town for now, I guess, but I don't really feel like I can lock anything down on him at the moment.

12. Xisiqomelir<--Meh. Just meh. Not town, not scum, just meh.

18. Muki/Anatole Kuragin<--I dunno, just haven't liked what he's presented, but kinda have a feeling he's not scum anyway? Near-assuredly not scum with AdrienC, but otherwise...
19.Jackal711/TheAdrienC<--Bit of an inverse to Anatole: what he presents looks good, but feels like scum.
5. ActionDan <--I'm actually increasingly concerned that Dan's scum. PV thought so, and died. Anti thought so, and died. AP's read there was meh. ika's read was scum. And they died. Then there's been Dan's contributions. Stumped at vezok's flip. Pushing through that wagon at all. General aura about him. The wagons he's been on. All-around, I'm seriously beginning to think he's scum.
17. Sharpest-knife-on-tree<--Buncha sketchy moves, sketchy circumstances, all-around feeling of sketchiness.

I'll need to give this a bit more detailed look later. For the moment, controversial:
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↑ Dr Pants wrote:true, but there really shouldnt be any reason for me to be in anyones conf town pile

This is precisely why you are in the town pile. Scum (unless they are me) generally forget to attack townreads on themselves if they feel they are baseless.

You've been wrong, but I was wrong too. Wrong =/= scum unless consistently wrong and Mastina.

@Slandaar, not insane really? I've said that meta only helps scum. Sit down and watch me operate and catch the scum.

I've followed zmuffin's trail of bullshit. I can catch you too. You tend to be pretty one dimensional as not town (including SK and scum there).

Mastin. The Wagons ive been on are 1) DGB. 2) Vezok. Elaborate so it doesn't sound like you are a paranoid mess. PV was vigged. I think it's pretty obvious with kill flavor.

Hello friends, I am now powerless.

VOTE: Anatole Kuragin

I would like to get a solid wagon going here. I do not believe this to be a town slot.



I'm still very ready to lynch mastin, but the only person who seemed receptive was Venjiffy.

I strongly townread Boo, let me re-read zMuff tomorrow (Aug 17 tomorrow) to get where everyone is coming from.

I think these slots are entirely town: Majvenmar, Molla, Slandaar, Dan, Titus, SKOT

↑ Slandaar wrote:Titus is playing too... sane and not making any real arguments of her own.

Can you explain "too sane"?

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:One weird thing though - Titus more or less hints at an ongoing game as meta on Muffin, which would be weird to risk if she's scum trying to make a scumcase

that's not actually what happened at all. what happened is i mentioned the fact that titus's whole reasoning for voting me was a load of shit and she's being a cheeky scum fuck because i can't talk about exactly why i know she's blatantly lying in statements she's made about me. what titus said was meaningless hyperbole in response to this.

i don't know how you saw one and not the other. or how you mistook that as being part of titus's "case" on me when it wasn't. she doesn't have a case on me, or a reason for voting me outside of calling what i did at the end of yesterday a slip when anyone who has played even a couple games with me knows it wasn't actually a slip (especially when it's something i've done as town on more than one occasion, which would make what i did at best null if you really cannot distinguish the difference between an intentional joke and an unintentional slip).

i was thinking about it over the night phase and i still don't really understand why that, and that alone, was a sticking point for titus if she's actually town. it was super obviously not a slip, there are multiple people telling her it wasn't a slip (including the now-deceased vezok and AP), and yet she's pushing it like it is a slip and it's the *only* reason she's pushing me as scum as far as i can tell. i don't think titus is this dense. i do not believe she truly thinks what i did was a slip. i do not believe that even if she did think that, she'd play it like she's currently playing it if she were town. and i cannot see anything she's doing as coming from a town mindset - and i mean both in regards to the push on me and her general play this game

↑ BBmolla wrote:Could always go SKOT

i'm fine with this happening, actually

i am starting to think skot is being intentionally useless to provide as little in the way of interactions as possible. i think he was kind of resigned to being lynched sooner or later and is trying not to make it obvious who he's scum with

mastin wrote:8. BlueBloodedToffee/Titus<--Controversial opinion: Titus is town. I say this in large part thanks to the ika read; ika I KNOW has a good ability to read Titus, and her killing him when he has a townread on her simply doesn't make much sense at all.

what do you think of titus's play?

mastin wrote:10. Messiah Complex<--Let's just say he needs another very hard, long look. I THINK he's town, but I'm not absolutely sure about it.

i started thinking they were town around the time they parsed vezok's ISO after his claim. i'd honestly be surprised if that came from scum-desp - i think his scum game resembles mine in many aspects in that he's less likely to go through that much effort to discredit a claim over attempting to sway public opinion via seeds of paranoia

mastin wrote:I'm actually increasingly concerned that Dan's scum

eh. i don't really see AD scum here. at the very least he's playing different to what he was in event card and gif touhou game

if you swapped AD and titus our reads would be virtually identical (minus a bit of shifting in strength)

@mastin

also re:titus

↑ Titus wrote:I've followed zmuffin's trail of bullshit. I can catch you [Slandaar] too. You tend to be pretty one dimensional as not town (including SK and scum there).

what do you think of this?

↑ Xisiqomelir wrote:Hello friends, I am now powerless.

i thought you were saving your shot for a claimed PR or something. who did you use it on?

↑ Xisiqomelir wrote:I think these slots are entirely town: Majvenmar, Molla, Slandaar, Dan, Titus, SKOT

why is titus town? why is skot town?

↑ Xisiqomelir wrote:Hello friends, I am now powerless.

VOTE: Anatole Kuragin

I would like to get a solid wagon going here. I do not believe this to be a town slot.

Spoiler:

↑ Muki wrote:

VOTE: SALAMENCE

Make the little man fly.

The L-1 first post.

↑ Muki wrote:I think Messiah Complex is scum.

(Just closed my eyes and pointed at the screen..)

Sala defending himself way too much

, but who wouldn't at this point? He did role claim after the 'slip' so I'm not too sure I trust his arguments.

I got a tagout instead of an answer to pointing out the bolded.

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Yeah I'd vote for slardar

Having not yet voted that day, and then does not.

I'm still very ready to lynch mastin, but the only person who seemed receptive was Venjiffy.

I strongly townread Boo, let me re-read zMuff tomorrow (Aug 17 tomorrow) to get where everyone is coming from.

I think these slots are entirely town: Majvenmar, Molla, Slandaar, Dan, Titus, SKOT

This slot has been occupied by two lazy, disinterested people.

That apparently makes us not town. Cool case bro.

VOTE: SKOT

the sheeping begins

VOTE: SKOT

Honestly I would happily also vote Muffin!

i wouldnt

Compelling.

Why do you think Powerful Townie died?

i think they were a hider who hid on titus

↑ ToastyToast wrote:

POWERFUL TOWNIE, Preston "Bode" Broadus, Town Neighbor, was a victim of police brutality Night 3!

↑ ToastyToast wrote:

POWERFUL TOWNIE, Preston "Bode" Broadus,

Town Neighbor,

was a victim of police brutality Night 3!

↑ ToastyToast wrote:

POWERFUL TOWNIE, Preston "Bode" Broadus,

Town Neighbor,

was a victim of police brutality Night 3!

↑ ToastyToast wrote:

POWERFUL TOWNIE, Preston "Bode" Broadus,

Town Neighbor,

was a victim of police brutality Night 3!

↑ ToastyToast wrote:

POWERFUL TOWNIE, Preston "Bode" Broadus,

Town Neighbor,

was a victim of police brutality Night 3!

↑ ToastyToast wrote:

POWERFUL TOWNIE, Preston "Bode" Broadus,

Town Neighbor,

was a victim of police brutality Night 3!

lol