Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:58 am
If you're going to OMGUS us Green Crayons go ahead and do so. This caginess is "weird".
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Ignore:
verb (used with object), ignored, ignoring.
1.
to refrain from noticing or recognizing:
↑ Titus wrote:@GC, Yes. Hypo claiming there is mason fishing. Someone says they recruited a scum, scum know they are not a mason OR said mason would not be believed in lylo. Second, scum shoot someone who liked Swag's plan. If they shot a mason, scum have an idea on who was recruited. Swag fishes on Kaboose to try and draw the last mason (or masons).
↑ Green Crayons wrote:↑ Heartless wrote:↑ Green Crayons wrote:Yes, I had reservations about the elle suspicions. That's why I talked to her about my suspicions, and ended up deciding against voting her. Your problem with my play is that I didn't say "hey I have some doubts about my suspicions of you, just a head's up as we go into this conversation"?
There's a balance between being open with the town and sabotaging one's suspicions. I choose not to completely undermine my suspicions.
As for "resolv this doubt," it's there if you want to look for it. Post 573 and Post 574 was the tipping point where my elle suspicions started to deflate. I was much more secure in reading elle as town by Post 659 (was phone posting at night so didn't feel like going into a blow by blow), and I made explicit this development in my elle read in Post 880 back when your other half had a hardon for calling elle scum.
well that leaves us w/ a problem. namely that the only thing that coincides w/ your elle read is the rise and fall of the wagon.
This is a pretty big bullshit line, so I'll let you rethink it.
↑ Heartless wrote:Well then prove us wrong.
I'm following the links you're providing which show the history of the read, but reviewing elle's activity I can't figure out what she said that influenced the change of heart. There's a few explanations for what happened. The more charitable one is that you simply neglected to give the specifics at the time for whatever reason be it time constraints or what have you. The less charitable one is that you didn't want to get your hands dirty and vote elle. This one is making more sense given our townread on elle and the lack of any evidence to the contrary.
So let's settle it here and now. What is it that you saw in elle's posting that made you back off?
I don't see why scum would propose a strategy with the knowledge that the plan would ultimately help scum.
↑ Green Crayons wrote:Also, your claim of "lack of any evidence to the contrary" of elle's play being suspicious is hyperbole and dishonest.
↑ Green Crayons wrote:You either believe that I had an active, developing read on elle, or you don't. I can give you the reasons, but then if you still don't want to believe me (be it because of confirmation bias, or simple mistrust, or because of your alignment) you can say I am simply retrofitting justifications for my changed stance.
↑ elleheathen wrote:
I didn't think complicated so much as... interesting.
I was just curious as to what you were thinking I was gambiting and what you would be giving away if you were to be too literal about it.
↑ Titus wrote:↑ elleheathen wrote:
I didn't think complicated so much as... interesting.
I was just curious as to what you were thinking I was gambiting and what you would be giving away if you were to be too literal about it.
That was meant as a future warning. Not as I thought you were gambiting.
↑ Heartless wrote:↑ Green Crayons wrote:You either believe that I had an active, developing read on elle, or you don't. I can give you the reasons, but then if you still don't want to believe me (be it because of confirmation bias, or simple mistrust, or because of your alignment) you can say I am simply retrofitting justifications for my changed stance.
Oh, well thenI don't. There, how do you like that?
↑ Green Crayons wrote:Do tell, does this make me town?
↑ elleheathen wrote:↑ Titus wrote:↑ elleheathen wrote:
I didn't think complicated so much as... interesting.
I was just curious as to what you were thinking I was gambiting and what you would be giving away if you were to be too literal about it.
That was meant as a future warning. Not as I thought you were gambiting.
Oh.
↑ Lone Ranger wrote:Walls are boring. GC's posts just aren't town. Flip GC and figure it out from there.