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In post 1236, ruru wrote:It was looking like you or him. If you're town, you don't know he's town, so obviously you prefer he gets lynched. If you're scum, you know he's town, so obviously you prefer he gets lynched.

Right, so I obviously didn't want to get lynched, but I feel like you aren't actually trying to figure out which of the two scenarios you outlined was happening. Like I feel like you're looking for scum on the wagon and like you scumread me, but you aren't trying to figure out the motivation of my vote.

Given the fact that the start of 1178 is clearly talking about my analysis of the gamestate in 1003 and your vote on me just before deadline, I assumed that the parenthesis at the end of 1178 was also talking about your vote on me just before deadline. Since that's apparently not what you meant, what were you referring to in the parenthesis at the end of 1178?

In post 1236, ruru wrote:

In post 1216, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1178, ruru wrote:(Also I was trying to do other things with my vote. There's no point in trying to lynch the person I find scummiest when we have like 3 AFKs.)

Um, the point of the game is to lynch the person you find scummiest, not the 3 afks?

??????????

I wanted to get the AFKs to talk before lynching anyone how do you STILL not understand this if you're town

Like the deadline was rapidly approaching. There was a wagon on me. You've been scumreading me for like a week and half. I basically told people to vote me. And you're not voting me cuz you want to vote an afk just before deadline when there's a wagon on like your biggest scumread.

When did I do this?? I was having some doubts about SS but I voted on you. Your posts are making less and less sense as the game progresses...

In post 1218, Scioness Sajj wrote:

In post 1037, Scioness Sajj wrote:I'm back for a while.

drixx > skitter but lynch > no lynch

In post 1046, Scioness Sajj wrote:we can lynch skitter, we don't know if we will be able to lynch anybody else because of claims

Drixx was here around this time yesterday but that's about it

In post 1054, Scioness Sajj wrote:

Have you both read the thread? We have 12 hours and only one VT claim, that makes lynching anybody but skitter nearly impossible.

Yeah, sure I'd prefer to lynch ruru today and see skitter go to the end game, but that's not really a thing right now.

In post 1060, Scioness Sajj wrote:lynch > no lynch
vt lynch > no claim lynch

p.edit if I have to vote skitter I will, I hope drixx will get back and claim vt though

In post 1066, Scioness Sajj wrote:We have 12 hours left, we don't know if enough people will be there for any new wagon nor is it actually safe to wagon anybody in case they won't be here to claim and we hit pr.

So we lynch skitter or drixx or we don't lynch at all

In post 1252, ofrhz wrote:@ruru- I don’t know if it’s just me but that thinking emoji is BIG.

In post 1250, skitter30 wrote:Really? I didn't read it that way. Like that question doesn't really have PR overtones to me tbh.

In post 1232, Oxy wrote:

In post 1157, ruru wrote:I would think town!SS would have preferred a no-lynch in general. She's saying Oxy and I are quite scummy and there's 834. So, if the first Drixx wagon was comprised of scum!Oxy and/or scum!ruru then why would she call Drixx a low info flip in 935? And then hammer him anyway despite not scumreading him. It doesn't add up to me.

I really like this. I wish you would take a look at some more of her read progression from D1 because I think you would do a better job articulating any odd moments that you find better than I would.

In post 1255, Scioness Sajj wrote:

In post 1046, Scioness Sajj wrote:we can lynch skitter, we don't know if we will be able to lynch anybody else because of claims

In post 1263, ofrhz wrote:Oxy I thought you said you didn’t want to lynch skitter today. Has that changed?

In post 1265, ruru wrote:

In post 1255, Scioness Sajj wrote:

In post 1046, Scioness Sajj wrote:we can lynch skitter, we don't know if we will be able to lynch anybody else because of claims

Oh, actually just noticed this now. This post has a weird mindset to me.

If you try to lynch someone you think is scum, and you expect them to have to fake claim, then that should be good, right? It's only a problem if you are trying to lynch town.

In post 1253, ruru wrote:If I think it's NAI, why would I analyze it?

In post 1253, ruru wrote:I am going to quote everything here for context because originally you implied I'm trying to lynch AFKs:

In post 1178, ruru wrote:(Also I was trying to do other things with my vote. There's no point in trying to lynch the person I find scummiest when we have like 3 AFKs.)

In post 1257, Oxy wrote:Do you really not see what Ofrhz is talking about? I think you should be able to see what Ofrhz is talking about. I would understand if you disagreed with an argument like, "it seems like a stretch to suggest that scum!sajj would so blatantly pr hunt" but it doesn't make sense to me that you wouldn't see it.

In post 1257, Oxy wrote:Skitter, I'm town reading ruru for a lot of reasons, and you'll have to forgive me for not making another big wall explaining it. The thing is, I was pretty strongly scum reading you, mathdino was town reading you, there are reasons to believe you weren't nearly his strongest town read, and now you're building scum teams with my number one town read and people who I would have a hard time believing she could be scum with, even if I was scum reading her. I believe it's probably <50% that you are actually scum, but even if you are town, your reads on sajj, ruru, and myself leave me scratching my head.

So, no, I'm not dropping my town read because you don't agree with me on a few posts

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In post 1259, Scioness Sajj wrote:Skitter - do you think we can win the game by poe at this point?

In post 1270, skitter30 wrote:Also it's kinda disingenuous to use 'I'm building scum teams with your number one townread' as a reason to find me sketchy when I'm literally answering the question ofrhz asked me: 'what are the plausible scumteams with ruru in it?' It's not like I just brought it up out of thin air. I explained my answer to that question as best as I know how.

In post 1270, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1253, ruru wrote:If I think it's NAI, why would I analyze it?

Because you're saying you're scumreading me but you're not voting me

and you're not trying to interact with me

so it feels like you're content to just say you're scumreading me without doing anything about it.

In post 1253, ruru wrote:I am going to quote everything here for context because originally you implied I'm trying to lynch AFKs:

In post 1178, ruru wrote:(Also I was trying to do other things with my vote. There's no point in trying to lynch the person I find scummiest when we have like 3 AFKs.)

I originally read this as you saying that you wanted to lynch the 3 afks instead of the person you found scummiest but that's apparently not what you meant?

But now I think you were trying to say 'why should I bother trying to lynch someone when it won't happen given that there's 3 people afk'? Is that accurate? Can you just like rephrase the bit from 1178 cuz I think I misread it?

I don't know if PoE'ing teams is super helpful at this time though. I think it's best just to look for individual scumminess and look for partners after a redflip.

In post 1271, Oxy wrote:

In post 1270, skitter30 wrote:Also it's kinda disingenuous to use 'I'm building scum teams with your number one townread' as a reason to find me sketchy when I'm literally answering the question ofrhz asked me: 'what are the plausible scumteams with ruru in it?' It's not like I just brought it up out of thin air. I explained my answer to that question as best as I know how.

Ofrhz, please correct me if I'm wrong. Ofrhz dropped his scum read on ruru because he couldn't find a plausible scum partner for Ruru, making it unlikely that his scum read on ruru was correct. I'm in a similar boat, in addition to my reasons for town reading ruru. To answer his question, you proposed scum teams that don't make sense to me based on their interactions. tl;dr: I knew you were answering his question, and I was not implying that you were saying all of this unprompted. I'm saying that your analysis seems flawed in this instance, and in enough instances that I would be hesitant to town read you even if I were otherwise doing so.