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In post 1244, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 1234, Shoshin wrote:Yes, correct. The fact that I'm playing this game is a town-tell. It might not appear that way to you, because you don't know me, but that doesn't change the reality of the fact that it's very unlikely I would have confirmed my role if I was scum. I've said this before in other games where I was town, for context, so this isn't something I'm making up. This is my last game for the next two years, and I definitely wouldn't be spending it playing scum. That's just a fact, yes it might seem unethical, but I wasn't even sure I wanted to play more mafia because I was scared of getting a mafia PM. I only signed up for this game because NSG invited me and it seemed like a fun setup to play.

Do you realize that trust tells are bannable offenses and prone to modkill?

In post 1235, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1231, Dannflor wrote:I feel like Shoshin should be arguing why her play makes her town, but she’s chosen to completely ignore RC’s case on her in favor of the dumb angleshooty argument.

If you want me to address his case, I will. I mostly don't want to get in a back-and-forth with RC, so if I'm addressing it, it's going to be for your sake, not his.

In post 1249, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1244, Sakura Hana wrote:Do you realize that trust tells are bannable offenses and prone to modkill?

It's not a trust tell if it's restricted to a single game. It's just a dubious self-meta claim.

I tend not to believe people who say that they would break site rules.

In post 1251, Dannflor wrote:

In post 1235, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1231, Dannflor wrote:I feel like Shoshin should be arguing why her play makes her town, but she’s chosen to completely ignore RC’s case on her in favor of the dumb angleshooty argument.

If you want me to address his case, I will. I mostly don't want to get in a back-and-forth with RC, so if I'm addressing it, it's going to be for your sake, not his.

I would like if you did

In post 1250, Shoshin wrote:I've never used a trust tell, and like I said, this is my last game on the site for over two years. Just for context, I'm leaving in two months -- I'll be serving in the Peace Corps in a small village in Africa and I don't expect to have internet. This IS my last game on here, and if I get banned, then so be it, but I can assure you I wasn't going to play scum for my last game. I'd rather be banned than waste my time doing something I hate.

In post 1238, Shoshin wrote:It's a bit absurd to call me scum when nothing has even happened in this game. Generally-speaking, town RC gives me a chance to lynch scum because he knows my reads are good enough to do so. The fact he isn't doing that here is very concerning.

I also think his push on me came at a very suspicious moment -- I started challenging his bulletproof, meaning he possibly wouldn't be able to kill me at night & would need to lynch me.

Scum RC cannot afford to leave me alive for very long.

In post 1250, Shoshin wrote:Just for context, I'm leaving in two months -- I'll be serving in the Peace Corps in a small village in Africa and I don't expect to have internet.

In post 1252, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 1249, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1244, Sakura Hana wrote:Do you realize that trust tells are bannable offenses and prone to modkill?

It's not a trust tell if it's restricted to a single game. It's just a dubious self-meta claim.

I tend not to believe people who say that they would break site rules.

I dont think it is anyway because RC mentioned she doing this "trust tell" as scum before.

In post 1257, Sakura Hana wrote:Yeah sorry RC, I changed my mind i dont think Shoshin is scum here.

In post 1258, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1252, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 1249, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1244, Sakura Hana wrote:Do you realize that trust tells are bannable offenses and prone to modkill?

It's not a trust tell if it's restricted to a single game. It's just a dubious self-meta claim.

I tend not to believe people who say that they would break site rules.

I dont think it is anyway because RC mentioned she doing this "trust tell" as scum before.

I never did this as scum? I did it as town to argue I was town, because I was in fact town.

In post 1116, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Very difficult for me to take that as anything besides a hard scumclaim. I've seen Shoshin push the logic that she's confirmed town for picking up the role PM before as town but in that game she used it based on the fact that the game took several weeks to start and she would have just been done the game if she was scum, not based on the logic that literally her being present in a game was confirmation that she was town.

Anyway, we can kill Wisdom Gameplay or something along those lines for first baton pass instead and almost certainly get at least one scum with a lot less mental effort from me and I'd be good with that.

In post 1259, Dannflor wrote:I’ll have to get the post numbers later.

But Shoshin, weren’t you the slot who said Nancy’s posts indicate that hydra is town? If not, do you agree with that?

In post 1243, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:shoshin, can u also give us baton candidates that aren't you or RC or the 3 lurkers with less posts than the mod?

In post 1260, Something_Smart wrote:If she did roll scum in her last game, I bet she'd be a lot less concerned with playing ethically.

In post 1116, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Very difficult for me to take that as anything besides a hard scumclaim. I've seen Shoshin push the logic that she's confirmed town for picking up the role PM before

as town

but in that game she used it based on the fact that the game took several weeks to start and she would have just been done the game if she was scum, not based on the logic that literally her being present in a game was confirmation that she was town.

In post 1264, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:

In post 1243, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:shoshin, can u also give us baton candidates that aren't you or RC or the 3 lurkers with less posts than the mod?

In post 1266, Sakura Hana wrote:Regardless of her alignment it's gonna leave a bad taste in my mouth.

In post 1270, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:GIF head is gonna step out for few days.
Forward all questions to Bitty tyvm

In post 1272, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1270, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:GIF head is gonna step out for few days.
Forward all questions to Bitty tyvm

That's unfortunate.

GIF is the one who has been in this specific spot before twice -- RC trying to lynch town me. I'd like to think GIF might have learned from these experiences & might have some insight to contribute. Maybe not.