mini 2126: the game is OVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eddie Cane]

UNVOTE:

Level 1 play time. Killing Clidd, Alch, Luna, Penguin, or Dann today.

[Dannflor]

I can see both rolling scum and deciding to go for a coast-y strategy. I'll review Dann's ISO for the Eddie parts.

if I roll scum with EC I'm efforting

[Luna Fox]

UNVOTE:

Level 1 play time. Killing Clidd, Alch, Luna, Penguin, or Dann today.

oh pick me! pick me!

[Auro]

if I roll scum with EC I'm efforting

Hard to believe when you didn't effort after rolling scum with Ankamius/Pink Ball/Flavor Leaf in Apocalypse, Dann.

[Dannflor]

...Ankamius and Flavor Leaf both replaced out D1

[Auro]

With Popsofctown - and you didn't effort while they were there as well IIRC

[Eddie Cane]

If Dann Eddie is the scum team we kill a rando, not fire. Move on.

[Eddie Cane]

I'm also 90% sure if I was scum with Dann I would just control the game, that's usually what I do when I roll with a strong partner. Ask Boon about all of the games we've wolfed together. You don't need to play well to win as scum with loud teammates.

[Auro]

If Dann Eddie is the scum team we kill a rando, not fire. Move on.

iDanyBoi, would you agree with this?

[Eddie Cane]

Now I'm just daydreaming about having rolled mafia this game, and getting the easiest win of my life. Would have been nice. Ah, could have been with Dann. We'd have mislynched Pine day 1 and got away with lolhammering. Shoot RCE for being obvious PR. Open wolf for the full game. Alas.

[Auro]

Now I'm just daydreaming about having rolled mafia this game, and getting the easiest win of my life. Would have been nice. Ah, could have been with Dann. We'd have mislynched Pine day 1 and got away with lolhammering. Shoot RCE for being obvious PR. Open wolf for the full game. Alas.

It feels like this

is

what you were trying to do and slip by lol, apart from the RCE PR stuff

[Auro]

Shoot RCE for being obvious PR

What in his D1 play made him obvious PR?

[Dannflor]

I have a scumread now
VOTE: Dannfloor


I won't provide reasons right now because I want to continue to observe Dann's play without him playing around how I'm reading him.

Dann's recent posting makes me slightly more confident in him being scum.

Auro, how did you go from this to finding me as light town because I had you as town? Like the reason I'm so confused is because it seems like you had a solid scum read on me at one point, but now I'm at a weak town tier simply for finding you as town. Did your scum read evaporate because I said RL was getting me down?

[Dannflor]

Ok Auro. Those WF quotes are enough for me to give you some breathing room here.

UNVOTE: Auro

I think this is mildly towny? Alchemist put a lot of effort into this push and it seems like odd timing to drop it right here. Even if he sensed Auro's defense as being effective, as scum I'd expect him to disappear for a little bit and see if the wagon still gains traction or not before backing up like this.

[Auro]

I was exaggerating my scumread at that point.
I think your RL reasons could affect those reasons, yeah, but not to a major extent.

You bounced to weak town tier for recognizing me town, and then that vanished when you said "unsure".
That feels like a scummy position to take, rather than advocate that I not be lynched today.

[Auro]

I think this is mildly towny? Alchemist put a lot of effort into this push and it seems like odd timing to drop it right here. Even if he sensed Auro's defense as being effective, as scum I'd expect him to disappear for a little bit and see if the wagon still gains traction or not before backing up like this.

But there's also the fact that I was hard-pushing him.
You can't imagine scum backing off in that context?

[Dannflor]

That feels like a scummy position to take, rather than advocate that I not be lynched today.

I wouldn't advocate for that if I was unsure and didn't have a clear alternative.

[Dannflor]

It's scummy but I'm not going to make up a read when I don't have one.

And yes, I imagine Alchemist backing off as I explained, I don't imagine him unvoting right at that timing.

[Dannflor]

I also don't know that you have enough clout behind you this game for your hard push to be super threatening.

[Auro]

I think you would, considering my play is pro-town in the same sense as it was as WF and the reasons people were pushing me were similar to WF too, which you called out there but not here.
I think you'd hunt for alternatives.

[Auro]

It's scummy but I'm not going to make up a read when I don't have one.

And yes, I imagine Alchemist backing off as I explained, I don't imagine him unvoting right at that timing.

If he wasn't backing off, he'd have to answer my questions.
He'd have to make up other reasons to scumread me.
Sure one alternative is to lurk, but I don't see that as more likely than just cutting engagement then by unvoting.

I also don't know that you have enough clout behind you this game for your hard push to be super threatening.

Current clout ≠ Potential clout

[Dannflor]

I've expressed from the beginning of the game that I feel you're playing different from WF. You said yourself you wouldn't be matching that level of play.

I assume you'd be trying to replicate the same type of play as either alignment. I don't think I have any particular good reason to town read you this game.

Like, I thought I saw a glimpse of it earlier, that you were genuinely looking to sort people. But I'm consistently getting the feeling that your questions are just a shade more like busy-work this game than in WF. Like generally your play seems to be erring closer to pedantic than genuinely solvey. However, due to your playstyle it's hard for me to tell whether that's because there's a difference in alignment from this game and that game, or whether you just can't match how good your play was in that game. (not trying to shade you or anything if you're town, I clearly have no place to judge from by the way I'm playing this game)

[Auro]

Which push of mine seemed pedantic?

[Dannflor]

I think going back my clidd town read may be have formed incorrectly

[Auro]

Which push of mine seemed pedantic?

Or a question of mine that feels like busywork. Go.