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The sudden scramble to bus this wagon suggests there may not have been scum on the wagon before that, by the way.

In post 1242, Quick wrote:

In post 1240, votato wrote:ok well thats actually a hammer

yup.

My pick for Scum team is in: [VP, Gamma, votato, Blair, R2R, Dunn]

GLHF

hi have you been reading?

In post 1250, Blair wrote:The sudden scramble to bus this wagon suggests there may not have been scum on the wagon before that, by the way.

blair if you don't give us some reads i'm going to assume gamma will flip town and you're just in anti-spew mode now

In post 1249, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1247, Quick wrote:Never letting go of Blair, R2R for SvS if Gamma flips green. Also, VP can very well be Scum with both due to there being no Non-Associatives between any of them. Blair vs Myself makes sense that VP comes in to be the "good guy" if they are all Scum.

So why am I on that list?

IDK, you seem ignorant enough... Maybe you are just Town here. I do feel like you said something Scum would never say except to look Townie for bizarre reasons but that could have been Puppy. For now, I have you as Null.

God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Straight down the player list:

VP
Puppy
0
R2R
Gamma
Atarashi
Blair
Atarashi
0
0

Can't be Scum with each other.

Taking out NPOM ofc

And nauci

Gamma is flipping scum momentarily, and I'll be dead tonight anyway, but let's all take a moment to appreciate that Quick is seriously entertaining the idea of a universe where the scum team decides the play today (from the very first posts of the day) was to trade Blair for a random townie in order to grant the already widely scumread R2R a stay of execution.

In post 1255, Quick wrote:Straight down the player list:

VP
Puppy
0
R2R
Gamma
Atarashi
Blair
Atarashi
0
0

Can't be Scum with each other.

How do I read this?

In post 1254, VP Baltar wrote:God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Yours is actually Scummier because of self hammer.

In post 1259, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1255, Quick wrote:Straight down the player list:

VP
Puppy
0
R2R
Gamma
Atarashi
Blair
Atarashi
0
0

Can't be Scum with each other.

How do I read this?

Read down the player list minus NPOM and Nauci

Those who "fit" those slots to the list cannot be SvS

In post 1260, Quick wrote:

In post 1254, VP Baltar wrote:God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Yours is actually Scummier because of self hammer.

I figured he wasn't around given he seems to go long periods of time without posting. I wanted to put L-1 and see if another scum would come in for the hammer.

So votato cannot be Scum with VP for example.

In post 1252, CantHateAPuppy wrote:

In post 1250, Blair wrote:The sudden scramble to bus this wagon suggests there may not have been scum on the wagon before that, by the way.

blair if you don't give us some reads i'm going to assume gamma will flip town and you're just in anti-spew mode now

I've given many reads in my roughly 300 posts in this game. I'm not going to make up new ones just to prevent you from making wild assumptions in twilight.

Quick is looking scummy again. Puppy still looks scummy. Votato looks terribad right now.

I'm leaning town on Dunn. VP could go either way.

In post 1262, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1260, Quick wrote:

In post 1254, VP Baltar wrote:God damnit. Votato, did you see my vote in pedit when you posted.

Yours is actually Scummier because of self hammer.

I figured he wasn't around given he seems to go long periods of time without posting. I wanted to put L-1 and see if another scum would come in for the hammer.

They could be lurking. Not Strok logic from you here.

Blair, who is your pick for Scum now that you are dead D3?

Night 2

Everyone sleep tight!
The day will dawn in (expired on 2020-05-24 01:03:00).
(If all living players PM me their consent, I will end the night early.)

Looking back on Gamma's play, it makes me think it's possible r2r was a bus target for him. Gamma followed me onto the r2r wagon but never really pushed it that hard. Perhaps he thought my cause was a slam dunk and felt he needed to get on it early.

Then he votes r2r again on day 2, for slightly vague reasons and again doesn't push it that hard to get a wagon going. I think what bugs me about this interaction is that he's never badgering people to get on the wagon. Instead, he answers some people's questions about his own vote and lets it be before being outted as scum by Blair.

Alternatively, maybe he just saw r2r as a weak target and a good way to buddy up to me if he ever got in trouble.

He also gives a pretty strong town read of votato, again without a lot of reasoning during the game.



needs to contribute to the game in a real way. I'm having a hard time reading that slot at this point, and we can't afford coasting.

- why were you posting about irrelevant things yesterday after there was clearly a claim dispute happening between Blair and Gamma? Like, explain to me how you did not see your posts were coming up amid the claims?

puppy 1221 wrote:ok, i'm all caught up, i didn't see the stuff about roles and claims until the end

not sure there's much i can add, one of blair/gamma is scum, i've been townreading blair most of the game and will probably side that way

I didn't care for the "I'm caught up" with no substantial interest in talking about the claim.


still want you to answer if my P-edit came up when you voted. I know we seem to have the same time stamp, but mine clearly came first. So wondering if you saw it.

In post 1270, VP Baltar wrote:puppy - why were you posting about irrelevant things yesterday after there was clearly a claim dispute happening between Blair and Gamma? Like, explain to me how you did not see your posts were coming up amid the claims?

i don't have anything to say i didn't say yesterday

I had a tab open, i died in another game and suddenly had time to catch up here, i did not read the most recent pages and just caught up from wherever i was at

feel free to keep poking or suspect me for it if you like, but this isn't a conversation that can really go anywhere. personally, i'll say that if i was scum with gamma it would have been much easier to just ignore the end of day or try to bus for credit at the end, than to read a bunch of pages that it turned out didn't matter because there was a claim going on instead

@VP: I did lots of looking through Gamma’s posts as well. I feel pretty confident that R2R is absolutely town. The day 1 push of R2R does not strike me as a bus’ing of scum and then the day 2 pursuit of R2R absolves him in full for me.

Quick and Puppy coming up a lot and Gamma defends Puppy more than anyone I feel always reading him as town and seeming to defend him.

As for midway bear, 1190 is awkward right? The reads like a refusal to bus with the pedit section bus’ing as fast as possible. It reads almost too close to how Gamma was trying to form a fake claim to defend against Blair’s reveal. Thoughts on this?

VOTE: midway bear

More or less where I am with flips and subtracting myself...

Hellbooks
VP, R2R
Puppy, votato, Dunn
mav

Probably should be closer to this:

Hellbooks, VP, R2R
Puppy, votato, Dunn
mav