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[farside22]

@farside, you're trying to manipulate me. Sorry, won't work.

Nope.

[unwnd]

I asked her if the quiz team gets notified of the advantages and she said yes, meaning a scum member can benefit from a quiz result as long as they're on it

[Pink Ball]

That’s how you balance two opposites though.

Escort and Consort
Investigator and Consigliere
Veteran and Medusa
Etc.

They are not opposite roles. beeboy fails a quiz if he's nominated. unwnd changes whoever they want's vote with theirs.

[midwaybear]

yes, but benefits aren't for individual members iirc
it's for scum/town as a whole

[Pink Ball]

I asked her if the quiz team gets notified of the advantages and she said yes, meaning a scum member can benefit from a quiz result as long as they're on it

That contradicts what spring said, and I think that's not the interpretation of what the mod said

p-edit what midwaybear said

[farside22]

I asked her if the quiz team gets notified of the advantages and she said yes, meaning a scum member can benefit from a quiz result as long as they're on it

Quiz results yes. Benefits of what the advantage is,No!
Big difference.

That’s how you balance two opposites though.

Escort and Consort
Investigator and Consigliere
Veteran and Medusa
Etc.

They are not opposite roles. beeboy fails a quiz if he's nominated. unwnd changes whoever they want's vote with theirs.

Beeboy says he has to fail it in he's in the quiz. unwnd changes the vote of one player.
How does that not balance?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ayt guys lets lynch it quickly so we dont out any REAL PRs today

[unwnd]

I've done all i can

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Balance or not doesn’t confirm any alignment.
And games aren’t always like that.
You may see a game where someone takes 1 less to vote but no other role in the game that takes 1 more to vote.
And If there was both, it’s possible they are different alignment. Although I don’t think it would ever be W/W.
But I don’t know, it depends on the host.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I've done all i can

For scum yeah.
Don’t worry, we will lynch your buddies too!

[Pink Ball]

Beeboy says he has to fail it in he's in the quiz. unwnd changes the vote of one player.
How does that not balance?

Think of the role for a minute. You need beeboy to specifically claim AND participate in a quiz in order to make unwnd's role an efective role towards balance.

Those roles weren't meant to interact with each other. unwnd is scum and adding that third line to make it sound an only town role.

[farside22]

Beeboy says he has to fail it in he's in the quiz. unwnd changes the vote of one player.
How does that not balance?

Think of the role for a minute. You need beeboy to specifically claim AND participate in a quiz in order to make unwnd's role an efective role towards balance.

Those roles weren't meant to interact with each other. unwnd is scum and adding that third line to make it sound an only town role.

I'm just going to say I see 2 players I'm scum reading pushing unwnd lynch the hardest so you can count me as a hard no to your choice. I know you scum read me, unwnd, Dunn.
I suspect Dunn based on convo with him.
I don't know why you are scum reading me or unwnd. But as I said before we scum read player for our own reasons and I see we do not think scum tells as the same.
I'd rather see TSE lynch today and I will stand by that with ABR with either Mid/SL.

[Raya36]

(working on catching up)

Lets do it. Hurry!

Why the rush? We have over a week and once we have a plan set in place it should be fast until second last has to pick.

Raya > TSE > PB > Beeboy > Unwnd/SirCakez

^ This was the OG plan btw if I am not mistaken ^

I mean I think we need to brain dive why we want to give it to PB before we move on.

@Squad Why is PB town.
@Dunnstral and whoever else has spoken against him why isn't PB town?

I'm okay with this plan, but I want you and PB reversed. Most everyone feels you're universal town, we're not going to learn much if you make that last choice. Hell, you might not even choose PB. I know for me that PB is still quite on the null side for me and I'd be interested in seeing who he chooses between Unwnd and SirCakez.

On the same side, I'd like to see TSE get the chain from here because I want to see if he'd stay true to his word.

I'd be ok with this if TSE confirms he's ok with the plan and will pass it to beeboy. (And now I see in the next post he agrees to this)

I think the pass/fail of the quiz is going to prove if we have scum or not. If you're scum, you have no reason to pass the quiz. Why would you willingly give an advantage to town, especially when you didn't even vote to approve your own quiz team?

I agree with this. Chances are if it fails there is at least 1 scum within the quiz group.

[Pink Ball]

I'm not scumreading you Raya

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Well looks like I start working again tomorrow.
So my activity is gonna be cut in half lol.

[Pink Ball]

Oh I thought farside's post was from Raya.

I don't care farside, you're opting to defend a pretty much obvious scum claim, so if you're not scum, you're just not someone I'm following

[TrueSoulEnergy]

(working on catching up)

Lets do it. Hurry!

Why the rush? We have over a week and once we have a plan set in place it should be fast until second last has to pick.

Raya > TSE > PB > Beeboy > Unwnd/SirCakez

^ This was the OG plan btw if I am not mistaken ^

I mean I think we need to brain dive why we want to give it to PB before we move on.

@Squad Why is PB town.
@Dunnstral and whoever else has spoken against him why isn't PB town?

I'm okay with this plan, but I want you and PB reversed. Most everyone feels you're universal town, we're not going to learn much if you make that last choice. Hell, you might not even choose PB. I know for me that PB is still quite on the null side for me and I'd be interested in seeing who he chooses between Unwnd and SirCakez.

On the same side, I'd like to see TSE get the chain from here because I want to see if he'd stay true to his word.

I'd be ok with this if TSE confirms he's ok with the plan and will pass it to beeboy. (And now I see in the next post he agrees to this)

I think the pass/fail of the quiz is going to prove if we have scum or not. If you're scum, you have no reason to pass the quiz. Why would you willingly give an advantage to town, especially when you didn't even vote to approve your own quiz team?

I agree with this. Chances are if it fails there is at least 1 scum within the quiz group.

Yeah so you want to do Me - BeeBoy and PinkBall decides SirCakez and Unwnd?
I’m down with that.

[farside22]

Oh I thought farside's post was from Raya.

I don't care farside, you're opting to defend a pretty much obvious scum claim, so if you're not scum, you're just not someone I'm following

Your working with and trusting obvious scum ABR so.....???

[MariaR]

@Mod Is the Following accurate? If the quiz is failed, scum gain a unspecified advantage.

You will be given the information on what happens if you pass and what happens if you fail the quiz.

Town players automatically pass the tasks, mafia can choose to sabotage them or not. Passing them gives town advantages, failing them gives mafia advantages.

[MariaR]

@mod: could you confirm whether the rewards for quizzes are context specific? Whether If a scum member is on a quiz that is passed he receives the benefits as well?

No comment.

[springlullaby]

MariaR wrote:
Town players automatically pass the tasks, mafia can choose to sabotage them or not. Passing them gives town advantages, failing them gives mafia advantages.

I just don't see how unwnd is not scum here.
@unwnd do you have a comment about that the above quote by the mod?

[Pink Ball]

Oh I thought farside's post was from Raya.

I don't care farside, you're opting to defend a pretty much obvious scum claim, so if you're not scum, you're just not someone I'm following

Your working with and trusting obvious scum ABR so.....???

I already asked you, is there a point on discussing about ABR with me right now? You're just losing both of our times.

[Raya36]

I'm apparently some fucking consensus scumread now and no one other than Starbuck (who is scum mad I pushed her) has presented any serious reasoning why. Someone just proposed unwnd/myself as the bottom two and everyone went like "hurr durr let's do that". I'd put players like farside, Dunn, ABR, PB in this pool.

But it seems so far that most people want Cakez and Unwnd as the bottom two and I am starting to doubt my TSE scumread so I'm not as convinced TSE has to be in the bottom two anymore. There isn't really a point anymore because there wouldn't even be a debate since most are townreading TSE now.

who is even TRing TSE?

Beeboy is. I believe starbuck said she is. I'm considering it now. I think I saw a couple others but I'd have to go back through to find them.

I actually want to call unwnd town just because I haven't seen anythign explicitly scummy from them and the way they've been pushed into this final two trap with me feels really scum-motivated

You're calling your likely competition to survive the bottom two town?

Why can't Spring be power hungry as scum?

Different agenda means different approach for her.

Do you know her scum play enough to say that she wouldn't approach the game as power hungry as scum?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you know her scum play enough to say that she wouldn't approach the game as power hungry as scum?

I'm an expert on the topic, it's not easy to bluff past me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

alright kids lets shut the fuck up and lynch the scum i caught