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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:49 am
by farside22
In post 1244, Pink Ball wrote:@farside, you're trying to manipulate me. Sorry, won't work.
Nope.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:50 am
by unwnd
I asked her if the quiz team gets notified of the advantages and she said yes, meaning a scum member can benefit from a quiz result as long as they're on it

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:50 am
by Pink Ball
In post 1241, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: That’s how you balance two opposites though.

Escort and Consort
Investigator and Consigliere
Veteran and Medusa
Etc.
They are not opposite roles. beeboy fails a quiz if he's nominated. unwnd changes whoever they want's vote with theirs.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:50 am
by midwaybear
yes, but benefits aren't for individual members iirc
it's for scum/town as a whole

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:51 am
by Pink Ball
In post 1251, unwnd wrote:I asked her if the quiz team gets notified of the advantages and she said yes, meaning a scum member can benefit from a quiz result as long as they're on it
That contradicts what spring said, and I think that's not the interpretation of what the mod said

p-edit what midwaybear said

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:52 am
by farside22
In post 1251, unwnd wrote:I asked her if the quiz team gets notified of the advantages and she said yes, meaning a scum member can benefit from a quiz result as long as they're on it
Quiz results yes. Benefits of what the advantage is,No!
Big difference.
In post 1252, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1241, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: That’s how you balance two opposites though.

Escort and Consort
Investigator and Consigliere
Veteran and Medusa
Etc.
They are not opposite roles. beeboy fails a quiz if he's nominated. unwnd changes whoever they want's vote with theirs.
Beeboy says he has to fail it in he's in the quiz. unwnd changes the vote of one player.
How does that not balance?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:53 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Ayt guys lets lynch it quickly so we dont out any REAL PRs today

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:55 am
by unwnd
:roll: I've done all i can

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:55 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
Balance or not doesn’t confirm any alignment.
And games aren’t always like that.
You may see a game where someone takes 1 less to vote but no other role in the game that takes 1 more to vote.
And If there was both, it’s possible they are different alignment. Although I don’t think it would ever be W/W.
But I don’t know, it depends on the host.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:55 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 1257, unwnd wrote::roll: I've done all i can
For scum yeah.
Don’t worry, we will lynch your buddies too!

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:58 am
by Pink Ball
In post 1255, farside22 wrote: Beeboy says he has to fail it in he's in the quiz. unwnd changes the vote of one player.
How does that not balance?
Think of the role for a minute. You need beeboy to specifically claim AND participate in a quiz in order to make unwnd's role an efective role towards balance.

Those roles weren't meant to interact with each other. unwnd is scum and adding that third line to make it sound an only town role.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:04 am
by farside22
In post 1260, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1255, farside22 wrote: Beeboy says he has to fail it in he's in the quiz. unwnd changes the vote of one player.
How does that not balance?
Think of the role for a minute. You need beeboy to specifically claim AND participate in a quiz in order to make unwnd's role an efective role towards balance.

Those roles weren't meant to interact with each other. unwnd is scum and adding that third line to make it sound an only town role.
I'm just going to say I see 2 players I'm scum reading pushing unwnd lynch the hardest so you can count me as a hard no to your choice. I know you scum read me, unwnd, Dunn.
I suspect Dunn based on convo with him.
I don't know why you are scum reading me or unwnd. But as I said before we scum read player for our own reasons and I see we do not think scum tells as the same.
I'd rather see TSE lynch today and I will stand by that with ABR with either Mid/SL.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:08 am
by Raya36
(working on catching up)
In post 1030, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lets do it. Hurry!
Why the rush? We have over a week and once we have a plan set in place it should be fast until second last has to pick.

In post 1033, Starbuck wrote:
In post 1026, beeboy wrote:Raya > TSE > PB > Beeboy > Unwnd/SirCakez

^ This was the OG plan btw if I am not mistaken ^

I mean I think we need to brain dive why we want to give it to PB before we move on.

@Squad Why is PB town.
@Dunnstral and whoever else has spoken against him why isn't PB town?
I'm okay with this plan, but I want you and PB reversed. Most everyone feels you're universal town, we're not going to learn much if you make that last choice. Hell, you might not even choose PB. I know for me that PB is still quite on the null side for me and I'd be interested in seeing who he chooses between Unwnd and SirCakez.

On the same side, I'd like to see TSE get the chain from here because I want to see if he'd stay true to his word.
I'd be ok with this if TSE confirms he's ok with the plan and will pass it to beeboy. (And now I see in the next post he agrees to this)

In post 1038, Starbuck wrote:I think the pass/fail of the quiz is going to prove if we have scum or not. If you're scum, you have no reason to pass the quiz. Why would you willingly give an advantage to town, especially when you didn't even vote to approve your own quiz team?
I agree with this. Chances are if it fails there is at least 1 scum within the quiz group.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 am
by Pink Ball
I'm not scumreading you Raya

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:11 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
Well looks like I start working again tomorrow.
So my activity is gonna be cut in half lol.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:12 am
by Pink Ball
Oh I thought farside's post was from Raya.

I don't care farside, you're opting to defend a pretty much obvious scum claim, so if you're not scum, you're just not someone I'm following

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:13 am
by TrueSoulEnergy
In post 1262, Raya36 wrote:(working on catching up)
In post 1030, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lets do it. Hurry!
Why the rush? We have over a week and once we have a plan set in place it should be fast until second last has to pick.

In post 1033, Starbuck wrote:
In post 1026, beeboy wrote:Raya > TSE > PB > Beeboy > Unwnd/SirCakez

^ This was the OG plan btw if I am not mistaken ^

I mean I think we need to brain dive why we want to give it to PB before we move on.

@Squad Why is PB town.
@Dunnstral and whoever else has spoken against him why isn't PB town?
I'm okay with this plan, but I want you and PB reversed. Most everyone feels you're universal town, we're not going to learn much if you make that last choice. Hell, you might not even choose PB. I know for me that PB is still quite on the null side for me and I'd be interested in seeing who he chooses between Unwnd and SirCakez.

On the same side, I'd like to see TSE get the chain from here because I want to see if he'd stay true to his word.
I'd be ok with this if TSE confirms he's ok with the plan and will pass it to beeboy. (And now I see in the next post he agrees to this)

In post 1038, Starbuck wrote:I think the pass/fail of the quiz is going to prove if we have scum or not. If you're scum, you have no reason to pass the quiz. Why would you willingly give an advantage to town, especially when you didn't even vote to approve your own quiz team?
I agree with this. Chances are if it fails there is at least 1 scum within the quiz group.
Yeah so you want to do Me - BeeBoy and PinkBall decides SirCakez and Unwnd?
I’m down with that.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:16 am
by farside22
In post 1265, Pink Ball wrote:Oh I thought farside's post was from Raya.

I don't care farside, you're opting to defend a pretty much obvious scum claim, so if you're not scum, you're just not someone I'm following
Your working with and trusting obvious scum ABR so.....???


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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:20 am
by MariaR
In post 1246, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:@Mod Is the Following accurate? If the quiz is failed, scum gain a unspecified advantage.
MariaR wrote:You will be given the information on what happens if you pass and what happens if you fail the quiz.
MariaR wrote:Town players automatically pass the tasks, mafia can choose to sabotage them or not. Passing them gives town advantages, failing them gives mafia advantages.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:21 am
by MariaR
In post 1248, springlullaby wrote:
@mod: could you confirm whether the rewards for quizzes are context specific? Whether If a scum member is on a quiz that is passed he receives the benefits as well?
No comment.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:30 am
by springlullaby
In post 1268, MariaR wrote:MariaR wrote:
Town players automatically pass the tasks, mafia can choose to sabotage them or not. Passing them gives town advantages, failing them gives mafia advantages.
I just don't see how unwnd is not scum here.
@unwnd do you have a comment about that the above quote by the mod?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:32 am
by Pink Ball
In post 1267, farside22 wrote:
In post 1265, Pink Ball wrote:Oh I thought farside's post was from Raya.

I don't care farside, you're opting to defend a pretty much obvious scum claim, so if you're not scum, you're just not someone I'm following
Your working with and trusting obvious scum ABR so.....???


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I already asked you, is there a point on discussing about ABR with me right now? You're just losing both of our times.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:34 am
by Raya36
In post 1072, SirCakez wrote:I'm apparently some fucking consensus scumread now and no one other than Starbuck (who is scum mad I pushed her) has presented any serious reasoning why. Someone just proposed unwnd/myself as the bottom two and everyone went like "hurr durr let's do that". I'd put players like farside, Dunn, ABR, PB in this pool.
In post 1013, Raya36 wrote:But it seems so far that most people want Cakez and Unwnd as the bottom two and I am starting to doubt my TSE scumread so I'm not as convinced TSE has to be in the bottom two anymore. There isn't really a point anymore because there wouldn't even be a debate since most are townreading TSE now.
who is even TRing TSE?
Beeboy is. I believe starbuck said she is. I'm considering it now. I think I saw a couple others but I'd have to go back through to find them.

In post 1077, SirCakez wrote:I actually want to call unwnd town just because I haven't seen anythign explicitly scummy from them and the way they've been pushed into this final two trap with me feels really scum-motivated
You're calling your likely competition to survive the bottom two town?

In post 1101, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1098, unwnd wrote:Why can't Spring be power hungry as scum?
Different agenda means different approach for her.
Do you know her scum play enough to say that she wouldn't approach the game as power hungry as scum?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 1272, Raya36 wrote:Do you know her scum play enough to say that she wouldn't approach the game as power hungry as scum?
I'm an expert on the topic, it's not easy to bluff past me.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:36 am
by Albert B. Rampage
alright kids lets shut the fuck up and lynch the scum i caught