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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:13 am

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Last call on the no gambiting thing. Past this point probably not gunna buy a reversal.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:28 am

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Right context.

If you lied about being a rose or gun out now or i’m Gunna steam roll ya if you change your story.
Uh, unless you’re not in danger and have a gun and can shot scum next dp. Whilst being confident you’ll avoid the wagon today.

In which case, don’t miss.
Though also I think it might be good?

Ugh, this is what lazy mental effort looks like. I can’t even seriously keep track of what it would mean if town lied with their claim or not.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:28 am

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^shit post.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:47 am

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Still feel decent about hiraki for the suck it d2 rose thing.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:56 am

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All I can think of seeing your play rn Bell is “I feel vindicated for smoke filled antechamber”
Because while I don’t think you’re scum atp your mechanical bumbling is remarkably similar to that game
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:10 am

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I can’t argue with this. *head scratch*
I’m just scattered. Though, also I think I lack fundamentals.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:00 pm

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I did not lie about being a Rose.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:06 pm

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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:18 pm

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Town aren't lying here
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 1251, Bell wrote:I can’t even seriously keep track of what it would mean if town lied with their claim or not.

Mafia really couldn't afford to claim gun, since that pool of players is really small and it clears too many other players.
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 1258, Dunnstral wrote:Town aren't lying here
+1 There's no reason to.

Scum have to pick either gun or rose. Whichever they don't pick is confirmed town. So if town lied here, they would risk townfirming a scum. I don't think anyone does that, no matter how confident they are.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:12 pm

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to add to this discussion, the only reason I'd see to lie as town would be at an early stage where there's plenty of scum that still need to be caught, but there's not really as much ability to catch scum that way in this setup as there would be in one like diffusion of power where there's a hard cap on each option
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:42 pm

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I was waiting for more from Akarin because she is confirmed town at this point.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:21 pm

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Anyone else is conftown?
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:22 pm

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Gamma is too
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 1262, Hiraki wrote:I was waiting for more from Akarin because she is confirmed town at this point.
Was hoping to solve alongside but, maybe not happening this DP.

I pretty much think the last scum is in Dunstral, DGB, Titus.

My priority is dragging myself out of the elim pool since that reduces the odds of us losing from a statistical stand point.

I can point to interactions with Gun that were relatively unlikely or unnecessarily complex interactions for scum to take.
My scum partner interaction game is bad.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:52 pm

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I could vote Titus or Dunnstral.
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:06 pm

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Yeah we all seem pretty settled on Dunnstral/Titus/DGB
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:48 pm

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7 > 5 > 3.

We can get them all
So I guess it's whether I want to bet the game on Hiraki TR and surviving myself or not.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:59 pm

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Hiraki is actually my second suspect...
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:12 pm

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Share when you wanna/can.

I just reread some sections. I have possibilities on scum partners, but nothing solid or seemingly obvious in their intent on non-flipped/unknowns in the scum pool.
It's just a bunch of, "it could be this" or "They might have meant this"
But I can't get a good grasp on likelihood.

Then I realized he might have been using boring instead of scummy
I initially thought that Maxwell might have made posts that point away from Sandman as a scum partner, describing their posts as boring and agreeing with me on them being boring in a way I don't they planed from post A to Post B. Before putting them up a little too high on their TR's. Sort of just discrediting them before slapping them in the town pile.

Then I realized that, on the otherhand, he might have slapped them with boring as a way to soften what might otherwise be construed as scummy play. Boring is neither scum or town. He just leaps quickly to some conclusions about Sandman at the end of his post for the town read.

So pretty much I'm not sure which way I should interpret his read there.

Also, Maxwell went way too detailed on me and I think it's fairly obvious he was using me as a lode stone while slapping me with an accurate TR. You can pretty much tell from his posts that he wasn't having trouble seeing from my perspective, where he might have had more difficulty if I were his scum partner because he wouldn't know my exact intent.
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:13 pm

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try as you may

still waiting on akarin
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:18 pm

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i was also thinking dunn -> titus -> DGB

i dont see DGB flipping but it's my last try if things are really that sour
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:25 pm

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I think Maxwell's initial fake reaction to my push on Dunnstral sort of points away from Dunnstral. In his catch up.
It doesn't help That Dunnstral started this day phase with his head on straighter then mine and helped me figure out we had 2 town clears.
But it doesn't seem out of this world to go for town credits when behind on things that people would probably figure out anyway.

I had some fun reading about DGB hard bussing Maxwell if they're scum this game.
They did the same thing in death curse and it was amusing there too, but only in hindsight cause I misread them. :(
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:21 pm

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In post 1268, Bell wrote:7 > 5 > 3.

We can get them all
So I guess it's whether I want to bet the game on Hiraki TR and surviving myself or not.
Get all who

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