In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hectic I can't believe you didn't pick me
PEdit: oh dear god I'm not gonna be able to read like 90% of this game am I?
In post 234, Chara wrote:second question, was this common knowledge? i'm surprised by the amount of "can't believe Hectic didn't pick meeeee" jokes when the very first thing that happens is the mod removing two players from being able to be drafted.
Me too, although i thought it was because everyone hated playing scum! i was expecting more of the "THANK GOD HE DIDN'T PICK ME" vibe, but maybe that's just cause i had myself and Noraa on my mind. Still, it is really interesting to me
What do you think about this @Skitter? You think all 4 Gamma votes are town?
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:34 am
by skitter30
In post 1246, Flavor Leaf wrote:Maria and I had an insanely strong scum theatre where if 1 was scum, 1 was town, and in my pocketed neighborhood, I went "You should vote Ank, Maria"
i'm p sure this is ultimately why my team won: it led to your game's scum loss and we were the only team with 4 winning games
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:35 am
by Chara
searching for scum within the Gamma votes feels like it has the same odds as searching for scum outside the Gamma votes.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:35 am
by Venus Mars and Pluto
In post 1245, skitter30 wrote:yeah i think so lol. i was in that one and scum with u in a hydra lol
Avengers and I was really sick with the flu while that was going on.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:35 am
by Flavor Leaf
I almost gift of gabbed my way out of it, but it was too deep in that one.
To be fair, I had also scum slipped as town twice prior, but still.
Yeah, I specifically remembering looking at in a way where Xtoxm's team was going to benefit the most from it even.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:36 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1253, Chara wrote:searching for scum within the Gamma votes feels like it has the same odds as searching for scum outside the Gamma votes.
Ydrasse wrote:okay i decided to give the thread some content as a treat + was wondering if you could explain what you mean by scum not being interested in that conversation.
like, uh, judging from 710 i'm assuming that you saying you reading chara correctly means you're correctly reading them as town? what does that like... tell you about what scum want? is it like, town-chara and town-skitter being able to identify each other from talking or not wanting it bc it puts scrutiny on scum-skitter?
I think my Chara read right now is correct yeah. Skitter considering Tweetie/Chara is very odd to me, I'd be borrowing from thoughts already posted here so I'll offer a new perspective. What do scum want the most? To be townread. Like, you can break it down in nuance but townies post and make reads because it's their wincon; vote the scum out. Scum do things to not die/get townies limmed instead, and this game is not deep enough to where I think scum is thinking hard about their interactions. I think most scum teams operate (outside of rare occasions) at an individual level, then they meet halfway. The only way you'd think Chara was scummy is if you disagreed with their reasoning on Tweetie. OK next point: Skitter disagreed. This led to them trading their viewpoints and trying to convince the other.
If I'm scum? Why the fuck do I wanna be involved with that. I'm just gonna let that play out. Scum don't care about townie conversation unless it involves them or it involves their partners. I have no idea why Skitter thought Tweetie/Chara could be SvS because it would be extraordinary reaching from Chara. Elastic hands reaching. Nobody was really thinking about Tweetie since then. We were all about anime and good times around then. Didn't feel like distancing to me at all? I would love for Skitter to explain her thought further once she reads this tbh
In post 1233, skitter30 wrote:ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem
VOTE: chara
bad vote
that's the one slot I have sorted out of those and I TR it
i'm not sure i vibe that rn :/
i'm controversial!!!!!!!!!!!
Gamma what prompted the TR, anyway?
also curious why Nancy(?) scumreads me. :< and RCE!
Starcrossed hasn't really been readable yet in my opinion, i am not sure why they're on so many lists. i guess i don't really TR them, but i also don't SR them at all.
yes i read that.
i think i responded to it already: chara brought up the mt scumread, so couldn't just let it go when i challenged it. tweetie had to respond cuz it was abt her as well
In post 1233, skitter30 wrote:ok i want to vote all of {rce, auro hydra, chara, starcrossed} and i only have the one vote, it's a problem
VOTE: chara
bad vote
that's the one slot I have sorted out of those and I TR it
i'm not sure i vibe that rn :/
i'm controversial!!!!!!!!!!!
Gamma what prompted the TR, anyway?
also curious why Nancy(?) scumreads me. :< and RCE!
Starcrossed hasn't really been readable yet in my opinion, i am not sure why they're on so many lists. i guess i don't really TR them, but i also don't SR them at all.
I would rather vote one of the Gamma voters > you.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:42 am
by Chara
i have a townlean on you, but i'm kind of annoyed by your read so i don't think you're a slot i'm eager to confidently sort today. as in real today, not Day 1.
In post 1253, Chara wrote:searching for scum within the Gamma votes feels like it has the same odds as searching for scum outside the Gamma votes.
Precisely why we're counting you for both groups.
this might be a 2 scum on gamma, 2 scum off gamma tmi
ITS JUST MY OPINION WAAAAAAAH
I don't understand the statistics of it, tbh.
You said there was about the same odds, but there's only 4 on the wagon of Gamma, and personally, I'm town leaning some of them.
I don't see a world where 1 of MT, Dannflorr, or Chara isn't the fade here today.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:43 am
by Chara
In post 1270, Chara wrote:i have a townlean on you, but i'm kind of annoyed by your read so i don't think you're a slot i'm eager to confidently sort today. as in real today, not Day 1.
this is to skitter.
Nancy: that's not really an answer about why you have a negative view of my slot currently. :>
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:45 am
by Flavor Leaf
Honestly, we're going to be here for days still in Day 1, let's ride it at least 5 days through, then start settling onto one of those 3. If anything major happens, we can switch of course, but I'm going to be watching for big action around that time.
I'm not too worried about misfading on Day 1, tbh. It usually works out in the favor when I misfade because it lets me see who was working me, and in this game, scum are obviously going to try to work me.
You said there was about the same odds, but there's only 4 on the wagon of Gamma, and personally, I'm town leaning some of them.
I don't see a world where 1 of MT, Dannflorr, or Chara isn't the fade here today.
i'm not convinced that
statistically
there has to be scum in one of the Gamma voters at all. sure, if you're certain on that and also strongly townread some of them, it makes sense to SR the remainder.
but there's a bunch of reasons scum might see it and not be available/feeling like hopping on, so the initial premise just doesn't seem reliable enough to use, or to have determine the D1 elimination.
