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It hit 112 today which is way too hot to do any critical thinking so I'm not gonna go back and read a ton at the moment.

I did have a thing written up about STD being confirmed town since we didn't have a hammer but I guess that's not actually true since we aren't in Mislim-or-lose.

Oof, hasch. I have a friend up that way, I can imagine you're miserable.

In post 1248, Zyla wrote:VOTE: Hockey
I believe this is E-1, do you have any last reasoning for why we should vote Pav, HC or STD tomorrow?

I think my vote pool rn is

Pav -> Hashcel -> STD

Pav - I think this slot is the scummiest rn for me cuz of how Luke interacted with Pav(null reading him most of day and never really hard pushing him until start of d2). Furthermore, pav has been way too indecisive/on the fence about this game(which imo I think is a scum trait). Like he has been null reading most of the game, and the few SL's he has had, he hasn't hard pushed them

Hashcel- If you guys think Pav is town, Hashcel is my 2nd condemn rn. Yea they were towny but Strange being their only push of the game AND strange fliping town makes them look a bit worse but I think Pav's scummier here. Could be just be wrong on all of these reads, so take these with a grain of salt

Hockey if your town self hammer. Gl every one

In post 1254, cyrus62 wrote:Hockey if your town self hammer. Gl every one

sure why not, dont wanna waste a whole day on this when u guys already wanna condemm me anyways, glhf town tmr, Luke tricked me smh

VOTE: HockeyFan

Now you see Zyls scum lay in pav or hsscall but std was worried my vote was there

That is why I didn't vote hockey. Elim pav tomorrow Zyls std and hascal

An Elimination Has Been Achieved!

Under ordinary circumstances it'd make sense to do a no-elim today, but all that will do is get Zyla, who's verified legit, killed in the night. I am frustrated Hockey self-hammered before STD weighed in. That's valuable information we now don't have.

we have to be careful here.

will look at Pav and HC when i have a free moment.

Pavowski has been pinging me as town all game so I'm inclined to think it's STD but I'm not going to go with gut alone here.

While we're waiting to hear from Zyla, a quick look back:

Strangematter's elim:



Luke's elim:



Hockey's elim:



When Luke was eliminated, Haschel didn't vote.

When Hockey was eliminated, STD didn't vote.

Haschel wasn't on the Strange wagon, and STD was.

I don't like this at all.

Also just gonna point out Cyrus drove me nuts in this thread but it's so quiet without him, it's weird =\

scum did us all a favor

I'm honestly still thinking HC for the vote. Does anyone have a reason for someone else?

In post 1268, Zyla wrote:I'm honestly still thinking HC for the vote. Does anyone have a reason for someone else?

I felt much more confident about Haschel until I looked at the votes and realized we don't have STD on record for Hockey (and can't get his vote at this point), which I don't at all like.

But I also might be chasing myself around in circles. My thoughts on Haschel haven't changed since before the Hockey elim. (See 1178 and 1227).

Given things aren't moving much around here I'm going to go ahead and open the bidding. VOTE: Haschel

Lukewarm knew he was going to flip and gave some last reads. He pegged the scumteam as Pav/STD.

From my perspective obviously he was giving cover to his partner by calling them scum; since I know I'm town and Zyla is confirmed town this isn't up for debate with me. The question becomes who was he giving a worse reason for scumreading? He wanted to express suspicion of his partner but not in a way that would actually lead to danger.

The big things Luke said about STD was that he liked STD's reaction to my questioning of Strange but didn't like the line about "cutting a new player slack". That's weak. He was willing to lim STD instead of Strange because " I would expect more coming from his slot since he is an SE this game, but then he has also said he has irl stuff going on, so idk. Not planning on pushing here, but am willing to move there if it is the difference between a no-elim or not." On Day 2 he shifts to a case on STD which isn't bad, but isn't the sort of case that will get other people to jump on board.

Finally he says

GTH, the scum team is still [STD, Pav] imo. Finding out that we have a jailkeeper who saved me has only strengthened that read. It now makes Way More sense for the two of them to come out of the gate bussing one another. If they knew that there was a 50/50 chance that the jailkeeper had targeted the scum who tried to kill me, then yeah, they needed to start the day off working as hard as they could to make sure that they were not seen as partners. Scum are paranoid, and would have seen this day as a ticking time bomb until the jailkeeper outed one of them.

The partnership he floats is obviously wrong, but he makes a decent point about scum knowing there's a 50/50 chance that the jailkeeper targeted scum. And who does he try to distance himself from first-thing? STD.

Pav has struck me as a decent townread all game while Fen has been closer to null. I think a Luke/STD partnership is a lot more likely than Luke/Pav.

No matter what Zyla shouldn't vote for anybody unless it's a hammer.

I think it's just haschel here but I still want to double check when I have a chance