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In post 1249, Thor Ragnarok wrote:Does Xtoxm like playing one alignment over the other?

In post 1240, the worst wrote:

In post 1234, Flea The Magician wrote:My big issue with Harvey and Haley rn is WIM telling. Haley being absent is probably the biggest red flag for me here, especially if I assume it's Anya based on Auro's previous interactions with them, and having played with them being absent scum.

Haley is always low pressure D1 and I don't think he's been playing mafia lately. I'm more focused on what Harvey is doing rather than literal absence.

pedit: VOTE: gamma emerald

In post 1147, Miss Midnight wrote:You'll have to excuse me if I eschew the typical style of a full spampost catch up, I think it might double the length of the thread. And that's if I could even get through it before passing out.

In post 1149, Miss Midnight wrote:Also, yeah. That's how far behind I am, in case it wasn't clear. Back to it.

In post 1255, Thor Ragnarok wrote:You're an interesting wagon shift

In post 1157, Miss Midnight wrote:For the record, and it truly is for the record because the thread has probably moved past this discourse by now, none of my scumread on Thor was based on a "weird" playstyle or any of the random stats posts. It was primarily based off of the vote on Gamma, which I think was pretty heavily scummy. Don't think the stats posts themselves are scum indicative, but also they're not town indicative. Think the most revealing parts of Thor's ISO, as I've seen it from what I've read until, come from posts voting, discussing votes or talking about reads.

In post 1044, ManateeGal wrote:if enough people arent reading it the same way i am then im ready to admit my interpretation is wrong

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VOTE: Enchant

In post 1086, Harvey and Haley wrote:I like Titus' point about my interactions with Thor and Enchant.

In post 1123, Bee wrote:My head is killing me but I don't wanna be a prod-gainer.

Manatee not jumping on Midnight despite wanting to apply pressure and having a decent reason to do so from early game seems like it's a good thing unless they're S/S but I don't think Midnight advocates for a wagon on her partner like that.

In post 1189, Something_Smart wrote:Presumably then she thought I claimed that nobody had ever drawn a valuable conclusion from VCA and wanted to object to it.

In post 1141, House wrote:

In post 452, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Thor knows @titus

Interesting that Gamma comments about his suspicion that Thor knows Titus here, but...

In post 616, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 565, Titus wrote:I think Thor might be a good wagon. Thor ignoring my reachout is bugging me. He's a big stats guy...until asked to follow up on it.

Yeah it looks like filler

... seems to miss that Titus is quite familiar with Thor here.

In post 1143, House wrote:

In post 1142, Gamma Emerald wrote:how is that missing that Titus knows Thor?

You don't address her knowledge of his playstyle at all.

(Yes, they do know each other)

In post 1193, Harvey and Haley wrote:

In post 1190, Something_Smart wrote:Why? I can pretty easily see town deciding between their scumleans by picking one that might get traction, and then documenting that decision

As I was saying earlier, it feels lazy and devoid of any further thought. There was nothing about the reasons others had suspected me. There was no summary of his own reasoning - he had expressed a dislike of my earlier attack on him, and adding that may have strengthened his attack.

It makes it look like he was seeking to leave a comfortable votepark, rather than actually threaten me.

-Harvey

In post 1195, House wrote:

In post 1193, Harvey and Haley wrote:It makes it look like he was seeking to leave a comfortable votepark, rather than actually threaten me.

He may have been. Given the circumstances, that alone is not scum indicative.

In post 1260, Titus wrote:What do you like about it? Why aren't you voting there then?

In post 1205, Harvey and Haley wrote:

In post 1195, House wrote:He may have been. Given the circumstances, that alone is not scum indicative.

Sure.
Enchant also goes from "Not much" (344) to "Idk" (1009) to "Why not?" (1037)
Manatee goes from "Don't wanna weaken the wagon" (328) to "Manatee's handling of her wagon seems towny" (344) to "TR starting to wane" (1128).
Neither of these trajectories look any impressive either.

Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1193, Harvey and Haley wrote:As I was saying earlier, it feels lazy and devoid of any further thought.

I mean he specifically referenced the existence of further thought... why not ask about his other reasons, instead of assuming he has none?

And I acknowledge that in my post. Two things: first, in that sentence, I meant thought regarding other players' suspicions on me; second, I knew he had other reasons for suspecting me - as I pointed out, my problem is that he didn't express them in that post, that addition alone, from his PoV could have strengthened the attack. Instead it just looks like he's lazily voteparking after seeing other people suspect me.

-Harvey

In post 1189, Something_Smart wrote:Presumably then she thought I claimed that nobody had ever drawn a valuable conclusion from VCA and wanted to object to it.

In post 1191, House wrote:

In post 923, Titus wrote:We don't need an ironclad case D1 just >rand scum.

I'm not a fan of this statement.

Not that i disagree about not needing an ironclad case on d1, just that the way it's put across as an, "any lim'll do" kinda vibe.

In post 1223, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm not saying you have to wall (in fact, please don't), but I guess I expected you to distill it down to a couple of points and nip it in the bud or something.

In post 1234, Flea The Magician wrote:My big issue with Harvey and Haley rn is WIM telling. Haley being absent is probably the biggest red flag for me here, especially if I assume it's Anya based on Auro's previous interactions with them, and having played with them being absent scum.


Miss Midnight needs a good read over too when i'm sane.

In post 1206, House wrote:Enchant read it's waffle-ish, but given that it's d1, that is whatevs.

I truly loathe his progression on Manatee, though. That has bothered me for a long time.

In post 1270, Titus wrote:

In post 1191, House wrote:

In post 923, Titus wrote:We don't need an ironclad case D1 just >rand scum.

I'm not a fan of this statement.

Not that i disagree about not needing an ironclad case on d1, just that the way it's put across as an, "any lim'll do" kinda vibe.

That's true to a point. I have my preferences but any non townread lim will so.