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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:05 am
by skitter30
VOTE: galron

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:06 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: Galron

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:12 am
by Ydrasse
is there something beyond the wanting to hammer despite being unsure for galron

because i can see myself going “yeah no info let’s flip and see what happens” if things dry up maybe i’m impatient

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:16 am
by skitter30
That's mostly it, but also that he's at once saying he doesnt know abt gamma while offering go hammer him, like now

Having a hard time kinda understanding ghe mindset where he's behind, keeps saying he needs to catch up, doesn't get why the biggest wagon js scumread, but also wants to hammer him

Also work now, so later

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:18 am
by Ydrasse
idk sometimes i vote for things that i don’t get because it does move things forward
VOTE: galron
like this
sometimes it really is easier to send someone out and start fresh rather than put in the Work

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:23 am
by skitter30
A) difference between the like third vote on a wagon and flipping someone
B) he's a different sorf of player than u

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:24 am
by Ydrasse
i don’t think it’s much but i will do those things on a whim

+ i don’t think that mindset is uncommon rlly

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:42 am
by skitter30
Right, i'm saying idk if town-galron does those sort of things on a whim

In particular whim-ly hammering someone

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:59 am
by Saber
In post 426, Galron wrote:Reading just the last three pages or whatever, I don't have a good feeling.
In post 439, Galron wrote:VOTE: Gamma
In post 774, Galron wrote:UNVOTE:
In post 820, Galron wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm not sure why I was voting Gamma. It seems like eons ago.
In post 821, Galron wrote:Wait, I remember. Gamma said something about how he wanted out. Which was a weird thing and pinged me wrong.
In post 822, Galron wrote:It must have been a frustration thing because you seem to be fighting it now, Gamma.
I strongly prefer Gamma but I don't really mind this Galron wagon, some of their posts just make me tilt my head. 820-822 was one of those sequences that felt off.

Also, noting now that Gamma and Galron are unlikely to be Stagehand-Stagehand given Galron forgot he'd already unvoted Gamma and Stagehands would be more conscious of their vote status on a partner.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:02 am
by SirCakez
In post 1174, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1164, SirCakez wrote:I'm not blaming him I'm saying you yelling at me about it and not other people who have said the same thing is disingenuous
And I think the reasoning is good but I'm on mobile and don't want to argue with you nor do I care
what

im not yelling at you

if i want to yell at you i'd use like caps or some shit
You know what I mean lol

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:12 am
by Saber
Gamma's behavior still doesn't make sense to me. He's calling his defender Infinity a 'dear friend', but then is strangely antagonistic to Dwlee who's also defending him.

I see skitter's point about it being counterproductive in the second case if he's paid actor, but..... I lost my train of thought and don't really know where I'm going with this. I'm probably confbiasing myself since I'm attributing erratic behavior to always be indicative of money, so never mind.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:15 am
by Saber
In post 973, Taly wrote:
In post 792, Saber wrote:All caught up. Free to be of assistance, Taly.

VOTE: Gamma

I'll get back to you on 780, Dwlee. I'm skimming through the script of the previous show Radio Buzz to see if I can ascertain any differences.
:D

How do you feel about
Cakez-Toog-Cephrir
?
Thoughts that come to my head right now:
Cakez - Unsure, but I remember disliking some of his takes.
Toog - His uncaring play is more likely to be town, doesn't give the feeling he cares about how his posts will look every time he pops in. An example would be the vote on Prism.
Cephrir - Was below null until he started posting about how this game is a wash because of similarities to the last show etc which I thought was pretty towny.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:18 am
by Infinity 324
In post 1173, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1152, Infinity 324 wrote:there's a few possible town motivations, including genuinely being lost and looking for reactions
gamma has not produced these motivations. assigning them to him seems awfully generous.

or even expressly changed his mind about the people he was going after earlier.
i think it's pretty clear that he's lost

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:30 am
by Infinity 324
In post 1229, Taly wrote:I would've liked to see ANY type of counter to my case on Gamma.... I get it was spoilered but I don't feel differently than I did last night.
i don't have much of a response to it...i think gamma was lost this game and had an emotional response to people pushing him that led him to play more erratically

the most important thing to look at imo is his posting since prism replaced out, he's been slowly showing a solving mindset in the classic gamma way

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1260, Saber wrote:Gamma's behavior still doesn't make sense to me. He's calling his defender Infinity a 'dear friend', but then is strangely antagonistic to Dwlee who's also defending him.

I see skitter's point about it being counterproductive in the second case if he's paid actor, but..... I lost my train of thought and don't really know where I'm going with this. I'm probably confbiasing myself since I'm attributing erratic behavior to always be indicative of money, so never mind.
If I don't know someone well enough I get paranoid when they act familiar with me. It's a real problem.

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:32 am
by Infinity 324
In post 1242, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1166, Infinity 324 wrote:i'm baffled at anyone who has galron at anything but null
Well what do u think abt the points i made a few posta up?
still don't agree with those points although i don't feel like he's been super towny now that he's actually been playing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:35 am
by Infinity 324
VOTE: galron cause i don't like either of the other wagons, tbf i'm terrible at reading dunn but the fact that he's getting wagoned d1 is probably +town

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:43 am
by Dwlee99
Gamma I feel like I know you well-ish

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:48 am
by petapan
VOTE: galron

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:54 am
by petapan
In post 1225, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1222, petapan wrote:
In post 1221, Gamma Emerald wrote:Honestly I do think your recent content is alright
You’re definitely the weakest full SR I have it’s just I kinda am concerned you’re gonna pockit me again
lol

i feel like i'm nothing like that game but that was also an anonymous game where i was playing deliberately off-meta so it's probably moot
That game isn’t all there is my concern here. I could see you angling towards townreading me from a mile away, so I instantly went shields-up when it came to trusting you here. There’s definite room to change my mind but I think that’s best done through action vs. explanation.
tbh, i do not explicitly townread you i'm just unenthusiastic about sending you to the chair on day 1 and would rather vote someone else

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:54 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1267, Dwlee99 wrote:Gamma I feel like I know you well-ish
until I can reliably get your pronouns right I can't exactly say it goes both ways soz

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:08 am
by petapan
In post 1229, Taly wrote:I would've liked to see ANY type of counter to my case on Gamma.... I get it was spoilered but I don't feel differently than I did last night.
i'm gonna be honest i didn't even realize it was there because it was sandwiched between two huge anime gifs

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:19 am
by SirCakez
Galron wagon? Don't mind me

VOTE: galron

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:21 am
by SirCakez
In post 1192, petapan wrote:that's...pretty much accurate, i suppose

it's a mix of things

i don't think this is a player list where i'm likely to have strong scumreads early and i feel that jumping in with reckless aggression is more likely to be unhelpful and lead to confusing my reads anyway

in the very early game i kind of prefer to hang back until something catches my attention anyway

this game is more or less my re-entry to plying mafia after some time off, where i couldn't muster any enthusiasm whatsoever. i had no desire to read anyone, the mystery of a game had no intrigue for me. now i'm back, i'm in that mindset and i'm eager to play, but i'm not in a place where i feel like i can act with confidence yet.


i am entirely serious when i say stuff about how i plan on being obvious town this game, it's just that it's not yet that time
Hmph this is a pretty town post

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:22 am
by SirCakez
In post 1215, petapan wrote:
In post 1140, SirCakez wrote:
In post 954, Cephrir wrote:he's posting

it's ez
Fuck I think my cephrir scum read was wrong
okay, so catching up, this is exactly what i'm talking about with cakez


this is perhaps the absolute most NAI post imaginable from ceph and he's somehow drawing conclusions from this, it hardly makes sense. that's a read that ceph would pretty much feel obligated to make as scum. cakez making this read does not feel organic





(also somewhat relatedly i think ceph getting salty about being scumread is town-indicative but haven't checked his response to pressure in recent scumgames to compare)
My point there was I am constantly mind melding with Ceph and it doesn't make sense for him to be scum with that in mind